"New faction creation process and representation" discussion thread.

[ophidian]

Being a factionized member of the community, I have to say the current state of faction relations are ok.

What is needed is not to change the initial faction level dialogues but to find ways about how to implement the unofficial ones.

This require certain "adjustments" but if the adjustments move into open changes on key areas, this will lead to a chaos. As a fairly active member and really active faction member, I have to say I am DEAD CONFUSED of certain posts on this topic, I cannot even think of an average player's realization of the subject.

- Council stuff;

Ok, it is always cool to have people representing themselves but instead of having 12 seat kinda VERY COMPLEX stuff (due to the parties involved), I suggest having an indie representative in each faction command. Like the High Command of Order. Add 1 representative from each new player group to that command. Like, Order| has 2 representatives, 1 indy high council member (it was 2 indies and one factionized 'till the court martial thingy of Tena) for each player group.

These groups should be accepted and realized groups, not just some 2 people renaming their chars. Yes, playing indy should be free but you are also playing in a community game, so you have to blend in to your role as well. You cannot act as Casper Orillion on day one. This is not powermongering or something, it is simply "knowing the way of things".


- Faction money: Let it stay. Its not a big sum anyway. If you are forming a faction, lets say have 4 people in it, 3 hours of trading each will give you that sum. Power trading? Heh, as if it is not already being done...

- Council decisions... Well, if a player faction and another one decides on to go into war at each other, I believe all should blend to this RP. Because, even though factions are individualistic bodies, most faction decisions are taken by faction community approval. For example, Order has 30-40 members and when the faction leader tells something here, it is a thing that we agreed on, not some power play stuff.

Therefore, that decision actually, (the war example lets say), is being taken by 2 factions with a certain playerbase (like 50-60 players total) who are aware of this idea if not being in support. So it is basicly not a 1 man decision, therefore, an indy following that is rather fitting into community RP from such perspective.

I don't like to boss people around much but I saw one thing, if someone doesn't take control of things even a bit, in RP way or OORP way, the situation gets out of control very rapidly, like it happened in Minor back in March.

Whether we like it or not, factionized play comes with its own rules and so you have to keep an eye on certain things, which makes you more responsible if not more effective or intelligent or RPer or better or whatever. However, with that "awareness" at hand, a factionized player can "show the path" to indie players who feel indy from the RP as well.

Some of the indy players are against this view but then, those indy players are experienced players in general and know the way around. Simply by that "showing the way" behaviour, we saved many new guys from getting a sanction or ban in Order space after we decided to take a better look at indy stuff going on. If that happened at 1/4th of all faction space and their indies, it is a serious amount of new players being accomodated to the server ways.

People may hate me for saying this but "not everything should be that free"

If people are too afraid of things getting out of control, put one admin into each directive board.

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