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53 50.48%
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs
Offline Dab
07-01-2009, 11:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-02-2009, 12:20 AM by Dab.)
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' Wrote:Personally I think the Zoner Guard ID is killing roleplay. If anything, I'd suggest a cargo reduction (followed in line with the zoner whale). I mean, Interspace, IND, independent trader, Junker IDs all got cargosize nerfs expressly because of the trading freedom they have, and they ALL have less freedom than zoners.

This isn't a bad proposal, but I think it might be a pain to actually implement. I mean, they could still go and do it when no one was watching (this is how they land cardamine on manhattan anyway, right?), and it involves a lot of print screening, sanction reporting, etc etc. I don't want everyone to have to be on their toes all the time, constantly suspecting all zoners of breaking the rules. Plus I mean, a lot of these guys, do they even read the ID? You could change it and they wouldn't even know. But if the zoner whale's cargospace dropped, they'd just have to take it in their stride.
Yes, they did get cargosize nerfs because of the trading freedom.. But Interspace isn't a trading corporation, they are insurance. Junkers are also not solely a trading corporation, and specialize in smuggling. Furthermore, the ships available to the junker are Liners and their best non-liner transport, the Pirate Train, has only 4,300 cargo itself. Zoner's own faction transport is 5,000. Furthermore, trading is all they do. So to lower the cargo size would be to lower the only thing it exists for. IC, Junkers, etc have alternative things to do.. Zoners have trading and politics. That's it. Restriction is good, but go too far and it'll only kill off the faction completely. That is something I want to avoid, as it won't help anything..

Also, I don't think it'll be difficult to implement at all. ID rules are generally followed already. And it isn't that difficult to screenshot someone's ID and them docking a station (or undocking, which would be even easier to prove) and report it. Most people will probably just switch immediately. There are less rule breakers than some people seem to think. Plenty break the small rules, but the major ones they don't. The few who do still try to trade like this will get caught pretty quickly.. Besides, the reason to have the Zoner Guard ID is that it allows 5,000 cargo and an unlimited ZoI and docking ability.. If they can't even be SEEN docking a station, that makes it more restrictive than any other ID out there. What if they flew for an hour to their destination that they aren't supposed to be able to land on, and there are four players sitting right outside? He either has to wait till they leave or go elsewhere. Either way he loses a ton of his profit, and suddenly he'll start thinking about an alternative ID to use that allows his route and his ship without having to go through the trouble of not getting caught breaking a rule.

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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 10:07 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by farmerman - 07-01-2009, 10:32 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by globalplayer-svk - 07-01-2009, 10:55 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:03 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cellulanus - 07-01-2009, 11:07 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by globalplayer-svk - 07-01-2009, 11:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by SigCorps - 07-01-2009, 11:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Lunaphase - 07-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by AJBeast - 07-01-2009, 11:18 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Capt. Henry Morgan - 07-01-2009, 11:18 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by DragonLancer - 07-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Petersen - 07-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Stygian - 07-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by sovereign - 07-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by atom - 07-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by hack - 07-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Colonel.Tigh - 07-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:44 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:54 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-02-2009, 05:18 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-02-2009, 05:25 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-02-2009, 05:42 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Quorg - 07-02-2009, 06:05 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ark - 07-02-2009, 06:29 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-02-2009, 06:30 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ark - 07-02-2009, 07:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Doc Holliday - 07-02-2009, 08:29 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cyberanson - 07-02-2009, 09:13 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by X-Lancer - 07-02-2009, 09:39 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Petersen - 07-02-2009, 09:43 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 07-02-2009, 09:56 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by NonSequitor - 07-02-2009, 10:09 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by ioha - 07-02-2009, 10:28 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-02-2009, 10:37 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Apex - 07-02-2009, 11:42 AM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-02-2009, 03:27 PM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-02-2009, 06:05 PM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-02-2009, 08:01 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Muad'Dib - 07-03-2009, 10:10 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Jinx - 07-03-2009, 10:49 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-03-2009, 10:53 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-05-2009, 09:59 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Irra - 07-05-2009, 10:28 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ra! - 07-05-2009, 12:29 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-05-2009, 02:45 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-05-2009, 04:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by AdamantineFist - 07-05-2009, 06:38 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-06-2009, 01:42 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Baltar - 07-06-2009, 03:53 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Doc Holliday - 07-06-2009, 04:35 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-06-2009, 05:12 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Baltar - 07-06-2009, 07:14 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 08:57 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-06-2009, 09:06 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by farmerman - 07-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 09:17 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 09:18 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-06-2009, 09:43 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 09:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by bluntpencil2001 - 07-06-2009, 09:51 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 10:04 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 10:21 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by tyro - 07-06-2009, 11:24 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-06-2009, 03:25 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by tansytansey - 07-06-2009, 04:06 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-07-2009, 01:10 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by tyro - 07-07-2009, 07:47 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Irra - 07-07-2009, 11:26 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-08-2009, 09:47 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-09-2009, 12:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-09-2009, 01:16 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-09-2009, 01:22 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Baltar - 07-09-2009, 06:41 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-09-2009, 07:38 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by farmerman - 07-09-2009, 11:48 AM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-09-2009, 11:56 PM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cellulanus - 07-10-2009, 02:13 AM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Bluntage - 07-11-2009, 01:14 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-11-2009, 01:53 AM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Skysurfer - 07-11-2009, 05:11 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-11-2009, 07:19 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Quorg - 07-11-2009, 09:04 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-11-2009, 10:09 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Jinx - 07-11-2009, 10:39 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Bluntage - 07-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-11-2009, 12:49 PM
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-11-2009, 05:45 PM
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