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Offline reavengitair
06-10-2009, 03:48 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-15-2009, 12:44 PM by reavengitair.)
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' Wrote:Okay... since I've not seen you today, I'll just post... I'm still convinced this proposal can be improved to a more... interesting, vision of how the Blood Dragons should be, rather than just conforming to the black and white alliances that most factions now have... As I'd said in PM, I didn't address all the issues in one post.

My main concern now, is the ranking system...
The idea that you're going to rule the whole Blood Dragon faction, with one of the few remaining direct descendent of Hideyoshi under your control, it's a little... over-ruling, of anything any other faction can do. It would basically be what you say, or execution.

You've mentioned the "Rising Son" but you've also used "Blood Dragons" through out... it's a conflict.

I'd say stick to the "Rising Sun" idea, dropping the references to leading the Blood Dragons.. you can have elite members, sure... Just not the leader of the whole NPC faction. It'd be more reasonable to have the leading rank of the "Rising Sun" as a Shogun.

To adopt this "Rising Sun" idea, I'd also change the tag... ]bd[ doesn't seem disimilar enough from [BD], BD-RS|? RS-? This request needed a little more time...

This requires a change in the back ground story, but not a complete overhaul.
You've also not included the its I've said about the HG... i.e. it was a 101st-eqsue Blood Dragon faction, we certianly did -NOT- do any piracy. The only "piracy" we did, was asking people to drop whole cargo-holds full, to destroy it, which was only because we could not, at that time, simply destroy them. We only did this in Chugoku. Neither did HG "die out" entirely, we re-merged into NovaPG.

Initially, it was due to the fact that Exile and I wanted a different vision of the Blood Dragons, we re-merged due to chronic inactivity, though I would've simply deleted the character had NovaPG not repositioned since the split to attempt to emulate the vanilla Blood Dragon faction as well as possible.
The GC side of the coin has also not been addressed... I think pipboy was in agreement over the issue, honestly, it'll make the Kusari unlawful scene a -lot- more interesting and a -lot- more accurate... Simply having them as allied would lose the Blood Dragons in the PR department in Kusari. Certainly enough to make them extremely wary of any attempt to do such a thing...

Ok...

The idea with the ranks was only due to the fact that each faction needs a faction leader. Originally we were going to have 3 shoguns as top ranks, but reviewing the requirements for player factions, we discovered that we needed a leader.

The Taishogun's rank description is only there to attempt to make an description of what a leader of the Blood Dragons should be like. In actual fact, a Taishogun is really a shogun with more powers than the other shogun. He still must consult the council of Shoguns, as the two shogun's vote together may over-ride the decision of Taishogun. Im not making this as a desperate plea for power, which is what I gather from much of your post - in fact during this, I have not made any changes/major decisions without his advice or permission. In actual fact, the Taishogun is meant to act like a grand admiral, whereas the Shogun is meant to be the two admirals that follow.


The Rising Sons idea was made by pipboy as a kind of parody of the Rising Suns. It is meant to be the name of the movement of the highest members, not the name of the faction itself. This faction is meant to be a standard blood dragon faction, just nearly every other standard faction (LN, Order, BHG, etc). This faction was not meant to be a "special" faction with their own set of goals and background history such as NovaPG and CR. We were going to rename the tag ]rs[ but we figured that ]bd[ looked better and rs always reminds me of runescape...

Also because the Blood Dragons have not been fully expressed in any faction with their prime goals and objectives. Blood Dragons objectives and goals are quite unique, yet no-one seems to like their general idea.


The part on the HG was taken from the HG's recruitment which I dug out..
Quote:We are -pirates-. Not Terrorists. Terrorism is to be executed by the NovaPG wing of the Council. You will uphold our code of conduct, and treat every trader or civillian equaly. Hostiles are to be -extermindated-. Espescialy within our own space. Chugoku is a fortress. Treat it as one. Tohoku and Tau are -off limits- to everyone but Dragons and GC. We also dream of achieving victory trough diplomacy. Violence is not a must.

Thats what I saw, and thats how I reacted. Im sorry if I got the intention muddled. Ill also fix the point on the HG merging with NovaPG.

The reason the GC has not been adressed is that I don't have many specifics of the actual nature of the bd/gc alliance, nor how deep the alliance goes. If anybody could give me information, I would be glad to address it. However, Like I have previously said: The GC are no longer loosely affilliated in my mind. We gave them a battleship, we helped develop their guns and their new ships. We give them access to our bases and our resources and are often found working together. Right now I think they are staying as allies.

Thanks for those ideas anyway. They will be considered if I could be given a few more particulars.

Quote:I would like to ask about this:

"• Eradication of all Gaijn forces in Kusari"

Now to be sure, Kusari culture tends to be distrusting about foreigners. But are there any rumours, news or infocards that specifically state that the Blood Dragons hate outsiders as a rule? I mean apart from the usual pirate/victim relationship?

I would like to suggest that this faction not be another xenophobic Kusari faction. The Farmers have cause to be the most xenophobic, suffering directly from foreign imported goods and the outsourcing of labour.

As I suggested in the feedback thread, perhaps have the dragons be more selective in their targeting of foreigners - rather than making it a stated goal to drive out all 'gaijin'.

Perhaps change the wording of your goal to "• Eradication of all dishonourable Gaijn in Kusari, as well as those foreign traders who service our enemies."

To make this faction one of the stereotypical 'racist' Kusari factions is to ignore the Dragons dealilngs with foreign agents of the Order - many of whom served with great distinction.

Please, allow for a spectrum of sentiments and RP within the group. You would have conservative elements who are as racist as can be - as well as more liberal minds who have no problems with honourable outsiders.

P.S - Yes I would be willing to join this faction. I believe I can contribute some roleplaying concepts that can create depth and complexity to this faction, and its interactions with other factions.

Thanks for this information. It will definatley be changed. The only reason I put all gaijn was because of this:

Quote:The Hideyoshi’s Guard work towards the same goals as the Blood Dragons, however, their methods are slightly different, they do not believe it is the fault of any Gajiin in Kusari that the Corsair-Hogosha-Samura government is dishonourable, and refrain from performing terrorist acts against them.

This faction's history is based off current events, but is mainly built upon the HG's faction history, however we are not going to become a replacement HG due to the HG having their own goals.


EDIT: Meh pipboy replied. And the PM was sent to me pipboy.
 
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The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-09-2009, 09:55 AM
The Blood Dragons - by LoTeK_ - 06-09-2009, 08:57 PM
The Blood Dragons - by gezza999 - 06-09-2009, 11:33 PM
The Blood Dragons - by Friday - 06-10-2009, 01:35 AM
The Blood Dragons - by pipboy - 06-10-2009, 03:32 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-10-2009, 03:48 AM
The Blood Dragons - by pipboy - 06-10-2009, 05:27 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-12-2009, 09:06 PM
The Blood Dragons - by Jacob S. - 06-12-2009, 09:16 PM
The Blood Dragons - by nikoli - 06-16-2009, 07:17 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Hawkwings - 06-16-2009, 07:46 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-16-2009, 07:56 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-20-2009, 04:20 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Lucas_Fernandez - 06-20-2009, 04:26 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-20-2009, 04:30 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Hawkwings - 06-24-2009, 07:17 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-24-2009, 07:27 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Lucas_Fernandez - 06-24-2009, 07:28 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Alexander Draconis - 06-28-2009, 07:48 PM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-28-2009, 10:04 PM
The Blood Dragons - by SilentAssassin82 - 06-29-2009, 04:35 PM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-29-2009, 10:35 PM
The Blood Dragons - by Exile - 06-29-2009, 10:57 PM
The Blood Dragons - by Turkish - 06-29-2009, 11:12 PM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-30-2009, 02:18 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Lohingren - 06-30-2009, 02:44 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Eppy - 06-30-2009, 03:12 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-30-2009, 06:14 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 06-30-2009, 07:17 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Alexander Draconis - 07-03-2009, 10:52 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 07-03-2009, 12:35 PM
The Blood Dragons - by Lohingren - 07-08-2009, 06:49 PM
The Blood Dragons - by McNeo - 08-03-2009, 10:57 AM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 08-03-2009, 11:18 AM
The Blood Dragons - by binTowers - 08-09-2009, 06:55 PM
The Blood Dragons - by reavengitair - 08-09-2009, 10:56 PM
The Blood Dragons - by binTowers - 08-10-2009, 03:55 AM
The Blood Dragons - by pipboy - 08-10-2009, 05:00 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Dieter Schprokets - 08-16-2009, 01:30 AM
The Blood Dragons - by Dieter Schprokets - 08-18-2009, 03:54 AM

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