ADMIN NOTICE : OFFICIAL FACTION RIGHTS

[kingvaillant]

1) Official Factions are free to restrict or not restrict access to their owned systems and tax players who enter owned system. Access to systems that surround owned system must not be restricted unless there's a war with another faction.

Fine, but it doesn't bring up a few questions: Are they allowed to restrict independents with proper tag/ID? I would personally assume not. As much as it is a pain the ass to have a bunch of indies in "your" system, it is generally the only place that one can purchase ships or equipment without flying across Sirius (Fafnir or Supernova in Rheinland, for example).

I would oppose you about some points. I see NO reason to let an OORP LSF player go into my system just to get a better ship (bomber or guard ID) if he can't RP and play properly. I would like to be... allowed... to take measures against them. However, I have no clue about how to define the line between those I could attack, and those I could not. Maybe some proof in SS that the player isn't following server rules properly enough to be allowed to use the system? (pics of swearing, OOC spam, weird loadouts, see what I mean) An evidence that would justify the taken action without any risks.

3) Once a faction achieves official status, they will receive their down payment of $500 mill back. They will further receive a Cap 8 Armour Upgrade, once they have spent 3 months contributing meaningfully to server RP, for instance, via events and forum activity.

I believe a Cap 8 is too far. Blunt Pencil's idea of many more, smaller, interesting rewards might not be a bad idea. Unfortunately, apart from codenames or unique commodities (such as mission commodities), I can think of little and do not approve of codenames.

Returning the credits I do not mind.

-- > Edit: I have been convinced to change my mind on the matter of the Capital 8s. I was indeed thinking "I have several, why cannot you obtain the same?" A capital 8 for a faction's flagship may be acceptable. It's only credits, afterall. I am still torn on this matter. Opinion subject to change.

Myself, I am... in a way, against the cap 8. Not every faction can use them. Only Giving them out to factions able to own BS would make things partial and unfair for other factions who rely on smaller vessels as they can't use it for their faction, and I'm sure they can't use it for their own personal ship neither. I don't know what Dieter' idea is, but if someone could provide it to me, it would be nice.

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5) Official Factions control the issuance of Battleship Licenses to independent players and faction members for their house Battleships, via the forum application process.

Players sanctioned for PVP violations in a battleship may, at the Admin's discretion, have the license removed as part of their sanction. They must then re-apply for the license from the official faction, or downgrade the ship.

An Official Faction which has granted a battleship license to a player may ask the Admins afterwards to remove the license, with reasons. Conversely a player who feels they have been treated unfairly by an Official Faction, regarding a license, may appeal to the Admins.

The important part, right? I am changing my original vote to be against this section of the faction rights proposal. Namely, I do believe this adds a level of bureaucracy that might be confusing to new players (or people who speak English as a second language). It also does, in fact, lend the ability for faction leaders to be more bias. If I wanted to buy myself a Kusari Battleship, I probably would be immediately accepted just for my name while, say... Nooblet would not. People who are abrasive (<_<), people with poor reputations, and unknown people would have a much more difficult time than I would. UNLIKE the faction proposal process.

Instead, I propose that the rule be effectively altered to instead provide a way for factions to report abusive players. For example, removing a battleship license and forcing a player to sell a battleship (or simply changing it to a Starflier/deleting the character) for violations that damage game play. Such things like cruising to catch up, smashing light fighters with battleships/ganking, oorp docking, oorp chat, disrupting a faction's role play (i.e. "I am Admiral, you listen to me!" to a Lt. in a player faction), and other such stuff. I assume you all know what I am talking about here. Yes, I know most of this is covered in current rules, but it all falls under 1.2, for which it is hard to submit a sanction report. So, I give you my proposal:
Above is a propose addendum to rule 1.5 or 6.24
Above is proposed alteration to right number five.

Personally (and the other admins may kill me for this), this would including putting a ship in Battleship with a "Contact Admin" note in their hold and a message saying which Admin to contact. Such player would then PM the admin, who would explain the situation and get his side of the story before making a decision like this. Said battleship would be in Bastille until talks with the player can be completed, at which point he would be removed from Bastille or sanctioned. Hopefully more often than not, the latter.

Assuming that this would not happen every bloody day, I would be willing to take this responsibility on.
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As a note I'd like to place at the bottom of my post, relating to the beginning of my post:

This is--in fact--a proposal. I voted to get community input. That is what I would like to see. Simply saying, "You are wrong." is not the way to go about convincing us to change. Suggesting alternative methods (as I have done above) is one way. I would like each post to be positive from this point forward.

Your proposal uses a safer approach to issue number 5. Only allowing faction leaders to take actions against the acts of the violator is better than simply risking some good players to be denied because of personal grudges as some have voiced. However, the last part of your proposal needs refinement. Currently, it would make the workload too heavy on the admin team in case of a BS pop explosion (every 4-5 months there is one it seems XD). I myself will try to find a solution to that... once I get rid of my headache...agrrr

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