Junkers...

[worldstrider]

Er...judging by the 4 pages so far of this thread, I wouldn't say so myself.

And if this is so clear, what exactly are we debating?
EDIT: I kind of sounded like an ass there...that's not was I was going for at all fyi

I thought you summed it up good. Not really a debate--more like brainstorming analysis.

Quasi-lawful isn't the same as lawful.
Quasi-lawful has criminal affiliations and gets along with them.
Quasi-lawful is barred from some lawful activities.

So quasi-lawful is just criminal with caveats. The Hogosha, Farmers , Junkers all have some distinctions that set them apart.

Hogosha are lawful and allowed to legitimately operate in Kusari but not wholly trusted or respected. Some of their activities must be done without government knowledge (those that break the law) others are accepted--helping police, conducting legal trade--etc. Same with Junkers in other houses.

One of the rumors talks about Hogosha leaders punished for selling cardamine--so they aren't allowed to flaunt the law egregiously. Junkers in like manner I am sure are punished when they do the same level of flaunting.

Farmers are a unique animal but the ongoing rp has pretty much slid them into the same category as Hogosha for all practical purposes. I personally think Hogosha would do the crime and Farmers would help in selling and transport--not co-labor as active criminals (other than fencing). No political group that was openly criminal would last long.

Junkers act as snitches to the police--we know that from the description. So who do they snitch on? Smugglers bringing goods in that they don't have a share in. Blatant and violent criminals that would bring the law down on them. So they gain rep with the cops by "turning bad guys in" (being careful to only turn in the worst of the worst or those who compete directly with the Junkers so even the bad guys "get it"). No doubt, they help with intel on Xenos and are appreciated for their stance against them.

So as long as Hogosha and Junkers confine their activities to low level offenses and keep them out of sight and return some service, they are accepted. In Kusari they are 'legitimized" but that also means they have more responsibility to appear "clean". Tolerance for Hogosha crimes in the public eye would be severely limited.

Junkers for informing might get a slide on lesser crimes but if they escalate up, they become a target. So balance has to be maintained.

BHs have a code and legal procedure--they HAVE to stay within that to be legitimate. If Bhs begin to play fast and lose with the rules, they lose their exclusive franchise I would think and become no different than Junkers or Hogosha.

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