Trading in .85 - a poll

[Grimly]

Yeah I don't want to sound too much like a broken record and the same everyone else, but I think this highlights a problem. While the money is fine and all that, not everyone 'can' haul mining machiners and robotic components. Like I said before, my main traders are a junker, a cryer and an OS&C. I guess the junker can haul those. Cryer and robotic components maybe. But my OS&C lux liner?

Grimly's point about the liberty-focus is not at all bad either. Liberty factions are all big enough anyway, and as a pirate out in Rheinland, feels like we're being choked out a bit. There's basically just the one line through Rheinland, and it isn't particularly high-traffic. You can sit on it easily enough, but you wont see that many people, and any lawful knows exactly where you are.

And the blockade thing, like it has been said, really hurts corps. For example, I have a cryer trader. Part of an unofficial faction too, so he has Cryer| at the start of his name. One of your suggested routes for cryer involves taking contraband across the rheinlandberty embargo. What if I get caught doing that? That whole Cryer| faction is basically screwed. Whereas some zoner can just be like "oho, I am neutral:)just supplying my freeport!:)" and then speeddock on literally any base he feels like and type /renameme.

I'm not trying to like, ask for a free pass to do whatever, but I mean, from a Cryer perspective, a big chunk of the stuff we're supposed to haul is illegal. Not saying that's bad, just saying that it puts me at a disadvantage when compared to some no-name zoner whale. And I thought the zoner trader spam was going to be curbed.
tl;dr: corps! Corporations are supposed to be these huge megapowers with disgusting, diplomacy-changing wealth, planets they have complete control and ownership over, huge fleets of ships blah blah blah, but they're basically nowhere becauase zoners have it all going on. also i get lonely when i pirate in stuttgart.
edit: to clarify, my problems aren't actually with the economy system, which I think is fine (I never traded too seriously in .84 I guess, but I make a lot of money right now on my junker, os&c and cryer characters. Sure the junker's trade freedom does grant it way, way more routes than the other two, and therefore I guess it's more exciting, but the money is more than fine for all three when sticking striictly to RP), but the way it is effected in game, with blockade running being safe, profitable and effortless, and little borderworld-shuffling dromedary-flying zoners being the major economic force in the galaxy, whilst lawful traders all get funnelled in to liberty's tradelanes at the mercy of any and every pirate around, and corporations are few and far between. Pirates just have to spend all day pirating zoners, which is boring and doesn't even make RP sense.

This point on trade ship limitation is what it makes the zoners traders get used in mass. A pirate can't no-more let them pass cause it's their only source of profits

Also ... I didn't tryed to see the other locations but in fact there is no real liberty focus, but just an abandon of the Rheinland while it still have commercial interrests with Kusary and Bretonia.

Looking at all pirate factions, I realize that 6 of them are depending of the Rheinland economy, Corsairs, Red hessians, Blood dragons, LWB, Bundshuh and Unioners. Also most of them were rushed in 4.84 version due to the diamond/niobium high profits.

And i know some who do this. And then make ~6 Mil with the pirated cargo. Which many times isn't pirated, but taken from the loot of the destroyed trader.

Try it on a Deuterium convoy heading to Ames (zoner immunity ... I say "lol wut ?"), Cardamine heading to Rochester (yes, you can demand the cargo ... you're addicted, aren't you ?), Artifacts (Isn't the problem the funds the corsairs get and not that shiny stones), Niobium to manhattan (junkers are always good customers in the black market) ... that makes about 10M each time.



Liberty missed the crisis ... it should come soon isn't it ?

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