Pirates

[Marlene_Humperdink]

Someone shooting CD at pirate or smuggler before giving engagement notice shouldnt be a rule violation because it would be impossible to stop them from leaving your ZOI, if the person pretends to be AFK. Unless the CD is shot in a shorter time afterwards than a notice would make sense anyway.
Shooting the shield down after asking for money isnt a rule violation, especially when the victim starts to thrust away, I consider the 'money or life' demand an engagement notice.
What about if you are simply CDed and not shot at after the pirate demand? You start thrusting away... the pirate can CD you more... but will have to shoot your shield down sooner or later because he cant stop you totally.
But... I had pirates rule-lawyering that I open fire without warning them first after they started shooting my shield down. The moment you open fire on somone, that person is entitled to self-defense.