Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs

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i have benn a 5k zoner guard ided trader for a very long time now, i see that there might be a bit too many of those flying around nowadays but i dont think your proposal is going to be practicacal on the server. there are too manny exceptions on your proposal that would lead to ingame oorp conversations from people argueing if that zoner transport is alllowed in this region of space and if hes going to dock here or there and in the end the zoner gets sacntioned for docking outside his id restrictions and the other guy gets sanctioned for rule lawyering.

Considering those exceptions are very clear, I don't see how any argument can come about because of it. If it's not IMG, GMG, Zoner, or Council, and your not carrying a load of Refugees, a Zoner can't dock there. If it is any of those 4 stations, you can.

its not the id or the faction that magically creates powertraders, the only reason for powertraders is that they want to buy a certain ship or armor kit and that as fast as possible. you can restrict the zoner guard id as much as you want, the people you are talking about here will just turn on flcompanion and search for the next best thing. and when they find out that there is a four stop very pirate free route for daumann they will go and buy the rheinland supertransport tag it for daumann and do this loop over and over without any rp.
you cant bring people to rp better by creating more id rules and restrictions, it just doesnt work this way.

Yes, many will go to FLCompanion. However, those people will find that the house faction routes all make similar money, and all have similar levels of pirates. Pirates go where the players are, so if a ton of transports are running a route, the pirates will go there. They aren't static. I doubt that all of the ZGuard traders will go the same way. Many will go Junker for the continued freedom, many will go corporation for the 5k transports. Those that go Corp aren't likely to all be the exact same corp. Especially after pirates start preying on the mass of them running the same route. It might get spammy at first, but they'll disperse eventually. What makes this likely is that there are few 2-stop routes. They are circuits now, so there is no 'best corp' with the 'best route.'

my first real character after getting started on the server was my spa and cruise luxury liner and i enjoyed it very much to fly around in it and do the big inrp trade route for it that stopped at all the spa and cruise planets and liners around sirius, but at that time that route did not make anything near the money it makes now, thanks to xoria and his helpers for the new inrp trade routes this has changed to the better this version. so back in 4.84 when i wanted to buy me my zoner juggernaut, i just got me an advanced train and did the niob-diamond run over and over until i had the 1.8 billion credits to buy it. when a pirate turned up i simply paid him and was on my way again, very easy thing, i dont see that is ever going to change. if you want something to play with you do anything to get there as fast as possible.

Not everyone makes a trader to role play it unfortunately. I don't doubt people will still do what they can to get as much in as little time as possible. I expect it, and that's normal trader attitude, even for those that do RP. However, it'll still be more RP for them and others to be corp tagged than see 10 Zoner Guard transports of every make and model for every one corp trader.

so my advice to get rid of the powertraders would be to make all things cost 1 credit, this way only the peeople that actual love their inrp traders and routes are out there trading and everyone else can focus on pew pew totally destroyed you pvp things. and now you think this is ridicoulous, well its the only way you will ever get rid of powertraders.

Even with people who want to RP traders, if everything is 1 credit than there won't be any traders. People still need a goal; To make money. If everything cost 1 credit, we'd have giant battleship squads roaming around. Pirates would disappear, as there is no point in pirating any longer. They'd say 'give me this amount of money,' the trader would, then they'd separate. It'd destroy RP and turn this into an RP server. Do you really think anyone will fly a VHF if every one of their enemies is a battleship with Cap VIII armor? They can't hurt them.. So they'll get a BS too. Soon enough everyone is in a BS, and whatever side has more BSs wins.. And then the community is destroyed because who wants to play a game like that where there is no purpose?

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