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Poll: Reduce them?
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Yes (Battleships and Armor)
40.65%
50 40.65%
Yes (Battleships only)
8.13%
10 8.13%
Yes (Armor only)
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16 13.01%
Other - Please explain in your post)
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Reduce the Prices on Battleships
Offline Eppy
07-02-2009, 12:24 AM,
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Quote: Im afraid i dont agree.

I have recently bought my own BS (a kind of flagship idea for the whole story i have been developing), and it has made me more inclined to try RP things that i wouldnt in a smaller ship. This i would say would be a good thing, as it sems to be working, and i can land in iron fist of RP on any PvPwhores without getting lolpwned!

On the other hand, it seems that there has been an increse in lolcaps recently (strangely most of these new PvPwhores dont know how to fly their ships), but as i am restricted to the edge worlds, this might not hold true throughout the rest of sirius. The thing is though, that most of these lolcaps and PvPwhores are restricted to cruisers/BCs/carriers, because a BS is so expensive and they seem to be to engaged in PvPwhoring to want to trade enough to get one, this is also good because if they do pop up, they can easily be 'discouraged' by those who do know how to RP. Now, imagine if the whole price of a BS and equipment were reduced, then everyone who had acess to a 5k cargo transport would be within striking distance of a BS (imo a ship which should be rarely seen apart from in home systems), and omicron delta (the edgeworld PvP hotspot) would all of a sudden be flooded with BHG BSs, order osirises, and corsair legates wanting to kill all that moves.

It is really a matter of the lesser of two wevils, would you like to have PvPwhoring BSs everywhere, and 'lol ima pwn u' being heared every 5 seconds in highly populated systems but have your BS and be a veretable 'bastion of RP in a PvP world', or go without your sweet capital ship, which would no doubt help enhance the RP of whatever faction let you have one, in the name of RP and general sanity?

I know which one i would choose...

Quite frankly, mate, we DID see that kind of thing in 4.83, we saw some of that in 4.83, back when battleships were about as expensive as I want them to be (and most people had never even heard of a Cap Mk VIII, even though it was in the mod). Battleships SHOULD be rarely seen, but you know what? They're going to be common, whether you knock 400 million credits off the purchase price or not, because there are always going to be those WoW players who grind and grind and grind until they can buy the ship they want, and that's most of the Battleships we see now. We have several of these in Omicron Alpha, and I will attest to the fact that in 4.83, even as the mod started to swell to the kinds of player levels that we see now, we saw fewer Outcast Dreadnoughts than I have seen in Outcast space now. Even if the lolcap levels did rise, we can work around them. It's called bombers. I was in the middle of a fight today between the Corsairs, Outcasts and Order today, in an Outcast Dreadnought, and I got ran out of the fight in about two minutes after buttraping the Order Osiris because I was almost dead, from THREE bombers. If it takes three bombers two minutes to put a Battleship on the run, then I honestly don't understand how this is going to cause problems, because if there's one thing everybody has in heavy supply it's bombers...

Second, I'd like to address this:
Quote:or go without your sweet capital ship, which would no doubt help enhance the RP of whatever faction let you have one, in the name of RP and general sanity?
But that's what I'm trying to do. I have something very large planned, and very involved; the problem is that I can't get to the dang ship I need to do it. It's hugely expensive to do so, and frankly, I want to be out having my RP, not doing this whole thing with the back and forth and back and forth oh my god I think I'm going to shank that innocent Junker bystander.

Quote: instead of reducing battleship PRICE, perhaps reduce weapon costs? 10 million credits for a battlerazor which isnt even that good, wheras 4 million for a missle that does insanely higher amounts of damge... seems strange. Basic battleship turrets cost 750k Per turret. Zoner turrets cost 2100k TELL me thats fair, when theres only a 5 dmg increase and a 30/ms increase in speed. its just not worth paying the cost of 3 turrets for the essencially same gun.

The problem with this is that it's not addressing more than a day's worth of trading. The Battleship costs 750-800 million credits standalone. The armor costs, assuming the prospective pilot has any class, between 88 and 900 million credits. Those are major costs, about a weeks worth of mindless, boring powertrading, possibly more, that could be knocked off safely. The Battleship shouldn't cost more than 50 or 60 million to arm; the ship itself and the armor, however, do, enormous amounts of powertrading that could be foregone.

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
n00bl3t Wrote:One of your nine. Tongue
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Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-01-2009, 10:17 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by ProwlerPC - 07-01-2009, 10:23 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by .:Mongoose:. - 07-01-2009, 10:38 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Cellulanus - 07-01-2009, 10:59 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by swift - 07-01-2009, 11:02 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Montezuma/Kukulcan - 07-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Bass_masta992 - 07-01-2009, 11:35 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Lunaphase - 07-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by swift - 07-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Weedalot - 07-02-2009, 12:16 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-02-2009, 12:24 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Dab - 07-02-2009, 12:27 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Luis - 07-02-2009, 12:28 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Lunaphase - 07-02-2009, 12:29 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by kikatsu - 07-02-2009, 12:30 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Montezuma/Kukulcan - 07-02-2009, 12:32 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Tic - 07-02-2009, 12:37 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Varyag - 07-02-2009, 12:53 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-02-2009, 12:57 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by dead_shot - 07-02-2009, 12:58 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Tenacity - 07-02-2009, 01:04 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Derkylos - 07-02-2009, 01:36 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Cosmos - 07-02-2009, 01:56 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Quorg - 07-02-2009, 02:28 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Cellulanus - 07-02-2009, 02:43 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Monk - 07-02-2009, 03:17 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Jacob S. - 07-02-2009, 03:42 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by triple88a - 07-02-2009, 03:44 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by geohxx - 07-02-2009, 04:06 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Agmen of Eladesor - 07-02-2009, 04:14 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-02-2009, 04:22 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by tansytansey - 07-02-2009, 04:28 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Monk - 07-02-2009, 04:36 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Marcus Lindberg - 07-02-2009, 05:05 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-02-2009, 05:18 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Elsdragon - 07-02-2009, 05:25 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by n00bl3t - 07-02-2009, 05:31 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by triple88a - 07-02-2009, 06:49 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by DiscoveryAccount - 07-02-2009, 07:44 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 07-02-2009, 09:36 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by sean24 - 07-02-2009, 10:02 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Panzer - 07-02-2009, 10:34 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Irra - 07-02-2009, 11:31 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Apex - 07-02-2009, 11:56 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Enojado - 07-02-2009, 12:01 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Agmen of Eladesor - 07-02-2009, 12:38 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Birdtalon - 07-02-2009, 02:37 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-02-2009, 02:58 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Topo - 07-02-2009, 03:26 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by DiscoveryAccount - 07-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Elsdragon - 07-02-2009, 09:35 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Birdtalon - 07-02-2009, 10:24 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Quorg - 07-02-2009, 10:53 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by ophidian - 07-02-2009, 11:45 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Elsdragon - 07-03-2009, 12:32 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by n00bl3t - 07-03-2009, 12:51 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-03-2009, 01:02 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by AdamantineFist - 07-03-2009, 01:11 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Valtur - 07-03-2009, 01:23 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Cosmos - 07-03-2009, 02:13 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Cellulanus - 07-03-2009, 02:20 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by zeinstruktor - 07-03-2009, 03:11 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Donutman - 07-03-2009, 03:17 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-03-2009, 04:01 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Elsdragon - 07-03-2009, 04:06 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Derkylos - 07-03-2009, 04:45 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Monk - 07-03-2009, 05:11 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-03-2009, 05:25 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Monk - 07-03-2009, 05:36 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by worldstrider - 07-03-2009, 05:36 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by tansytansey - 07-03-2009, 06:22 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by farmerman - 07-03-2009, 06:24 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Jacob S. - 07-03-2009, 06:28 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Agmen of Eladesor - 07-03-2009, 06:34 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by reavengitair - 07-03-2009, 06:42 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by DiscoveryAccount - 07-03-2009, 07:26 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Birdtalon - 07-03-2009, 07:37 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by El Nino - 07-03-2009, 07:53 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by farmerman - 07-03-2009, 08:03 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 07-03-2009, 09:08 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Jinx - 07-03-2009, 10:11 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Cyberanson - 07-03-2009, 10:21 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Lucas_Fernandez - 07-03-2009, 10:55 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Altaris - 07-03-2009, 11:21 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Tomtomrawr - 07-03-2009, 11:27 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Dejavu - 07-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by swift - 07-03-2009, 12:25 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Irra - 07-03-2009, 12:56 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by DiscoveryAccount - 07-03-2009, 06:51 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Faxxon - 07-03-2009, 06:56 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by reisiger_duke - 07-04-2009, 12:56 AM
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Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by El Nino - 07-04-2009, 02:50 AM
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Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Eppy - 07-04-2009, 06:29 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Elsdragon - 07-04-2009, 06:37 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Birdtalon - 07-04-2009, 06:43 PM
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Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Monk - 07-04-2009, 07:51 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by triple88a - 07-04-2009, 07:53 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by Cellulanus - 07-04-2009, 08:07 PM
Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by atlantis2112 - 07-04-2009, 08:10 PM
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Reduce the Prices on Battleships - by FooFighter - 07-05-2009, 01:09 PM
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