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Poll: Implement these changes to the Zoner Guard ID?
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Yes
50.48%
53 50.48%
No
39.05%
41 39.05%
With further revision (Post what you think needs changed)
6.67%
7 6.67%
Other (Post)
3.81%
4 3.81%
Total 105 vote(s) 100%
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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs
Offline Malaclypse 666
07-02-2009, 05:18 AM,
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Ahh.. made it!

I swear I tried to get here four times already today.. ah well.. Five's the charm, eh?

Does anyone find it odd that mostbunall Zoners who've responded seem to agree with this proposal?

Does anyone wonder why a group of players known for their love of freedom and independence would wish to place yet more restrictions on themselves?

Fooled ya! You thought i was about to whiss all over the idea, didn' ya?

I just wanted to do some 'splainin', Luci, by answering my own questions.

Change has made the Zoner life more "attractive". It's easier to get a Zoner or Zoner Guard rep and ID now. We have the blessing of that delightful new un-bulgey Whale, courtesy of our beloved Jinx; as well as the marvelous "reworks" of our Juggy, Aquilon, and Corvo.

And, let's face it. Zoners are starting to "cook". We do stuff.. We have new bases. We have new opportunities for roleplay... some "gifted" to us, some shoved in our faces, and some hard-fought for.

But.. Those blessings also carry a curse. A rapid influx of folk into a "loose" affiliation of "loose" Zoners with "loose" restrictions.

And now it seems, (Eris forgive me), that even we Zoners are saying "too much looseness.. too much 'Slack'.."

Too many folk too "mentor".. too many folk to get us in hot water over roleplay that may seem "Zonerish" to them, but actually hampers what Zoners should be striving for.

So we're saying "Yes.. restrict us." Sombunall of us will suffer.. ZTC and OSI may have to find other routes and markets for organisms. ZTC's new shiney proposal stresses their members becoming "Elite" Zoner Guards.. which may hamper their activities under these proposed ID changes.

But in the end.. CoZ members, Faction folk, we all agree that there are certain things that should be expected of Zoners.

Our capital vessels should be "mysterious".. un-countable and "un-seen", especially in House space. The proposed changes will ensure that.

Our lovely Zoner Whales should be exclusive.. as to ownership, as to purpose, and as to the routes they ply and the bases they "serve". The proposed changes will help to ensure that as well.

We as Zoners have a wealth of new players, new opportunities, and new "challenges". This change in the Guard ID, as pointed out, will serve somewhat to "share" that wealth with other corporate Factions, by making the "Zoner Way" less attractive to sombunall, while making House trading factions more attractive to sombunall.

We as Zoners will gain by these changes in a number of ways, of course. The new ID restrictions would actually help us to define and "hone" our roleplay. it will force us to adapt, just as Zoners have had to do since they first began to leave the Houses for the "Border" Worlds. This is actualy a blessing in disguise.

It will also serve to cut down on the number of reports we (The CoZ, the SHIZL, the Factions) will have to deal with concerning misbehavior and "oorp" actions. We will better know what is expected of us to truly roleplay Zoners.

I commend Dab on suggesting the changes, on accepting feedback from the Zoner Community, and on the excellent presentation.

For myself, I've voted a resounding "Yes", without changes or reservation. In the end, I feel the proposed Guard ID changes will benefit the Zoners more than it will hurt them; and benefit the Discovery Community as well, by putting the ol' Chao back in balance regarding the current surplus of Guard-tagged ZBTs running about the Sector, often where they shouldn't be by any reasonable standard of Zoner philosophy.

I've caucaused the TAZ, and can say with reasonable certainty that "we" support this proposal as an Official faction as well.

Pair o' digms,
Mal

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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 10:07 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by farmerman - 07-01-2009, 10:32 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by globalplayer-svk - 07-01-2009, 10:55 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:03 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cellulanus - 07-01-2009, 11:07 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by globalplayer-svk - 07-01-2009, 11:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by SigCorps - 07-01-2009, 11:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Lunaphase - 07-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by AJBeast - 07-01-2009, 11:18 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Capt. Henry Morgan - 07-01-2009, 11:18 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by DragonLancer - 07-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Petersen - 07-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Stygian - 07-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by sovereign - 07-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by atom - 07-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by hack - 07-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Colonel.Tigh - 07-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:44 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-01-2009, 11:54 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-02-2009, 05:18 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-02-2009, 05:25 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-02-2009, 05:42 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Quorg - 07-02-2009, 06:05 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ark - 07-02-2009, 06:29 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-02-2009, 06:30 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ark - 07-02-2009, 07:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Doc Holliday - 07-02-2009, 08:29 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cyberanson - 07-02-2009, 09:13 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by X-Lancer - 07-02-2009, 09:39 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Petersen - 07-02-2009, 09:43 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 07-02-2009, 09:56 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by NonSequitor - 07-02-2009, 10:09 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by ioha - 07-02-2009, 10:28 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-02-2009, 10:37 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Apex - 07-02-2009, 11:42 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Derkylos - 07-02-2009, 03:04 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-02-2009, 03:27 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dra1003 - 07-02-2009, 05:49 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by DAnvilFan - 07-02-2009, 06:00 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-02-2009, 06:05 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Tomtomrawr - 07-02-2009, 06:10 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Implosion - 07-02-2009, 06:16 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by SigCorps - 07-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-02-2009, 08:01 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Muad'Dib - 07-03-2009, 10:10 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Jinx - 07-03-2009, 10:49 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-03-2009, 10:53 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-05-2009, 09:59 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Irra - 07-05-2009, 10:28 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ra! - 07-05-2009, 12:29 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-05-2009, 02:45 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-05-2009, 04:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by AdamantineFist - 07-05-2009, 06:38 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-06-2009, 01:42 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Baltar - 07-06-2009, 03:53 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Doc Holliday - 07-06-2009, 04:35 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-06-2009, 05:12 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Baltar - 07-06-2009, 07:14 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 08:57 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-06-2009, 09:06 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by farmerman - 07-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 09:17 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 09:18 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-06-2009, 09:43 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 09:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by bluntpencil2001 - 07-06-2009, 09:51 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 10:04 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 10:21 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by tyro - 07-06-2009, 11:24 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by reavengitair - 07-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-06-2009, 03:25 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by tansytansey - 07-06-2009, 04:06 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-07-2009, 01:10 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by tyro - 07-07-2009, 07:47 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Irra - 07-07-2009, 11:26 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-08-2009, 09:47 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-09-2009, 12:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-09-2009, 01:16 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-09-2009, 01:22 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Baltar - 07-09-2009, 06:41 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-09-2009, 07:38 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by farmerman - 07-09-2009, 11:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ark - 07-09-2009, 01:55 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by farmerman - 07-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ark - 07-09-2009, 02:22 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by SigCorps - 07-09-2009, 02:42 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-09-2009, 05:32 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cyberanson - 07-09-2009, 05:34 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-09-2009, 06:58 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Ark - 07-09-2009, 07:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-09-2009, 10:26 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by ugliestmoose - 07-09-2009, 10:40 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-09-2009, 11:03 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-09-2009, 11:45 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-09-2009, 11:46 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-09-2009, 11:56 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-10-2009, 01:04 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cellulanus - 07-10-2009, 02:13 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by n00bl3t - 07-10-2009, 02:44 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Bluntage - 07-10-2009, 07:10 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by tyro - 07-10-2009, 08:35 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Phyrus Emperor - 07-10-2009, 08:58 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-10-2009, 06:34 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Dab - 07-10-2009, 06:36 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Bluntage - 07-11-2009, 12:40 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by dr lameos - 07-11-2009, 12:48 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Bluntage - 07-11-2009, 01:14 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-11-2009, 01:53 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Bluntage - 07-11-2009, 02:29 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Skysurfer - 07-11-2009, 05:11 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-11-2009, 07:19 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Quorg - 07-11-2009, 09:04 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-11-2009, 10:09 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Jinx - 07-11-2009, 10:39 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Bluntage - 07-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Clarkie - 07-11-2009, 12:49 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Frey - 07-11-2009, 03:11 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by FraserTE - 07-11-2009, 05:45 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Benjamin - 07-11-2009, 08:43 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by SigCorps - 07-11-2009, 09:30 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Quorg - 07-12-2009, 12:56 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Cellulanus - 07-12-2009, 05:27 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by ugliestmoose - 07-12-2009, 06:30 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Gemini893 - 07-12-2009, 07:52 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Walker - 07-14-2009, 09:27 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Jinx - 07-14-2009, 09:43 AM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Gemini893 - 07-14-2009, 09:28 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Jinx - 07-14-2009, 10:13 PM
Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - by Malaclypse 666 - 07-14-2009, 11:56 PM

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