Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs

[Gemini893]

First off, there are 13 pages so I did not read the entire thread. Just the original post in it.

Part of the problem is that People really don't have any other choice for an all over trade ID. I thought I finally came up with a solution with GMG because they "supply all 4 major houses with H-Fuel" but, upon further investigation, found that they have some conflict with Rheinland in this mod. How Rheinland gets their H-Fuel now is beyond my comprehension.

I tried Universal but, at least on the USA server with their new "rep fixer" tool, Rheinland was hostile even though Universal has reps on several Rheinland bases.

I'm going to try a new character, without investing much into it, and equip it with the Interspace Commerce ID to see what happens. They, at least, have a base in Rheinland so they SHOULD be able to go there. While they're, technically, not a trading company, the wiki does say that IC will ship loads for an extra charge. Ergo, it is a possibility. At least within the 4 main houses.

I appreciate that many wanted to end the Zoner power traders but, seriously, there were NO other options left open for an alternative either. GMG, in my opinion. would have been the best option because of the fact that they are the supplier of H-Fuel to every house...until that little thing was added in with 4.85. If you seriously want the Zoner Guard trading to end, then there needs to be an alternative for people to use. Don't complain when it's the only option left for trading everywhere.

EDIT: Zoners running illegal cargo are OORP, it says right on the ID that zoners stay on the good side of the law. Those players should be sanctioned for OORP.

Another problem is the fact taht Zoners have a 5000 cargo cap whale but you can't fly it unless you have a Guard ID. In my opinion, Guard should be just that. Guard. Guard should mostly hang around Zoner bases with the exception of moving between them to enforce FP neutrality and what-not. When the new mod came out with zoner cargo ships that zoners can't use unless they go Guard, the MOD created the problem in the first place. The regular Zoner ID should allow for any size Transport AS LONG AS IT IS A ZONER SHIP. Fine, want to be a Zoner and have 5000 cargo? Fine, you're stuck with the Zoner Whale and only the Zoner Whale. This would still exclude Zoners from power trading in Adv Trains but still allow REGULAR Zoner ID users to have a 5k ship.

The main reason people choose Zoner for traders is because of a total lack of other options. When options open up then you'll see more corporate traders. But the new MOD has just about every house at war with someone. Liberty and Rheinland can't trade. Kusari and Bretonia can't trade. and now even GMG can't trade with Rheinland, even though that seems oorp due to Rheinland's need for H-Fuel.

As Jinx said, the complexity of every ID is extremely convoluted. This rule and that "special RP" has been Discovery's own undoing as far as trade ship role play.

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