Should the Order be "out there"?

[Lucend]

What was once a secret society with operatives everywhere, for years, is now distrusted by those that would take them in, due to association with their enemies.

The Blood Dragons won't have them any more, neither will the Bundschuh. I doubt Buffalo base will be used as a launching point again, and I doubt Kress and his men will launch from Cali.

Diplomatic failure much?

This much I agree. It is a diplomatic failure, but you just can't dictate that one group be friends with another and then poof, we're all lovey dovey.

The Order hasn't been seen in Liberty or any house system really since Vanilla. Making them unallied with the Corsairs won't help that fact at all. The players themselves need to get out there and make deals and such. Is there anything stopping the Order from launching from Buffalo? The Rogues don't care about the Corsairs. Were there any Order ships at the RM/TBH war? I was there and so were you and I don't remember any, but no one has even talked to the Bundschuh. The reason why you don't see anybody do that is because nobody has -tried-. And as far as the Vanilla connection with the Outcasts, there really wasn't any real reason given as to their affiliations with the Outcasts. As far as we know, that might have been a dead-end.

To summarize, we're just throwing around hot air. Let's wait and see if things are broken before we fix them, eh? Currently the Order is kinda cooped up in Minor. Let's see what happens.

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"The thirteen saloons that had lined the one street of Seney had not left a trace. The foundations of the Mansion House hotel stuck up above the ground. The stone was chipped and split by the fire. It was all that was left of the town of Seney. Even the surface had been burned off the ground.
Nick looked at the burned-over stretch of hillside, where he had expected to find the scattered houses of the town and then walked down the railroad track to the bridge over the river. The river was there."

Osaika Moto, the Fall and Rise of a Kusari Farmer

Juan Lucendez, √ Corsair