Canadian Systems

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Oh man, i laughed so hard... iam still laughing.... it starts to hurt somewhere.... but, ...man.
Here some facts:

Berlin
18711945 Capitol of the 'German Empire'
19491990 Capitol of the DDR
since 1990 Capitol of the BRD (after GG 'Basic Law' since 1949)
since 1999 also Parlamentary Seat and Seat of Government according to the 'Capitol-degree' of 1991

Bonn
19491990 defacto Capitol (official/formal just Seat of Government) of the BRD

Berlin is, was and will ever be the Capitol of Germany.
Thanks.

Ah ... I'm glad you had a good laugh at my admitted ignorance of German history. I was truly being honest when I said I did not know whether Berlin was and/or is the capital. Thanks for the clarification.

Only thing I do know is that from the end of WWII to the time the Berlin wall falling down (which by the way I was in college watching it fall ... and I actually lived in West Germany from 1980 to 1982) ... but during this time, Berlin was not the capital of West Germany.

Call it defacto or whatever you like ... but West Germany WAS ruled in Bonn during this time, correct? When the East and West were reunited ... was there any guarantee that Berlin would return to being the capital of both halves?

The game was made for more than 3 years by Chris Roberts before the buy out and I doubt the complexion of the game would have changed dramatically just because some German guy took over the named leader spot especially since Roberts is alleged to have been a creative consultant after his departure, and again if Microsoft bought it out I'm pretty sure the American audience would be their main target. Whether the game was changed dramatically or stayed largely the same (I think it changed quite a bit actually) is moot. The publisher is American and their target audience is going to be American. But really, this is a moot point. I forgot how much people over here love to take the piss and act like bastards over meaningless points in the overall argument. Is Hispania meant to be Spain or Mexico? We'll never know cause they're all pirates now. Back on topic I guess.
That may be true but this game is based on a conceit which is altogether implausible. In this game the houses are reflections, extrapolations, of real earth nations and their composite elements, significant corporations, criminal groups, all the cultural and governmental characteristics of the time frame which the designers aimed for.

The conceit of Freelancer and also Discovery is that the systems are named for what they represent. Suddenly saying that the names of Canadian systems mean nothing if every other system is named for a deeper significance seems to contradict everything that has gone into designing this game and its subsequent modification.

A simple fact that you left out ... the game (storyline) was never finished. Too many holes left by the creator that need to be filled in. Canadians, French, etc were not in the original release of this game. They might have been a planned part of the game had they actually finished it ... but we'll never know.

And Hispania are not really pirates. They are basically Outcasts and Corsairs in a civil war with one another. Piracy is just a sideline to their entire makeup. There are no true 100% pirates in the original release. Each faction has an agenda ... although not fully revealed because they never completed the entire storyline.

Nothing is static ... they may be extrapolations of present day nations/cultures ... but if you take a close look at American society ... its an extrapolation of various nations/cultures. American English is quite different than British English. There's a mix of other language in American English. The game shows a bit of how the dividing line between corporation and government blend and get skewed. Corporations become the government for the most part. Take a look at the LPI ... they're not government ... they're a corporation ... as many here have argued to me in other threads.

Take another look at western society as a whole. The majority of languages spoken in western cultures are Latin based. Yes ... we all speak a variation of Latin. Britain was not always Britain. What happened to the Celts and the Galls? French are not 100% Gallic ya know. Anglos, Saxons, Galls, Celts ... where are they in this mix? How about Native Americans? Mayans? Muslims? Come on man ... this thread is about creating a house not designed by the author ... or designating ownership of systems (American or British). Why don't we role play a war between Bretonia and Liberty over ownership of these systems?

This entire thread and the arguments created here are about ADDING to what the creators of this game intended. We're not reading the minds of the game's creators. We're taking their ideas and expanding on them. And you guys wanna get historical and through reality into it. When's my Native American heritage gonna be addressed huh? Or is this just a white Anglo/Saxon game? We got lots of Europeans represented ... now that we've got the French systems. Yeah ... we got a touch of Asia with Kusari ... but for the most part this game is 90% Anglo/Saxon.