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Offline Athenian
08-06-2009, 10:27 AM,
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' Wrote:Well i propose we limit the amount being pirated with have for ever 1000 Cargo its 250k credits or possibly a limit of 1 Million credits if they are over lvl60 and put it on every Pirate able ID.

Here's where I favour a free market economy. Generally speaking the amount to steal is, and should be, up to a players' discretion. We can't force people to rp.

' Wrote:I admit to stealing that idea upon hearing of it. Hey, when you can't come up with good ideas, act on someone else's.

And no, we don't need more rules to force people to play nice. They either will or they won't.
Going from my own experience, being the well-known faction leader of the one highly visible Junker faction does not make me immune to piracy. But being in a Salvage Frigate with a Cap 7 armor and three battle razors very often does make lone gunboats and bombers cruise up, only to turn tail and leave without a word said. With those that don't RP unless it involves a prelude to a blue message, often times the simple threat of a harder fight and denial of access to their favorite system for four hours is enough to make them think twice.

The only solution I'd honestly propose regarding all the pirate gunboats would be to bring gunboat and transport defenses closer in line with one another. The disparity is just too big right now. Give the "harder" transports a fighting chance against gunboats.

Keeps rules out and makes life a bit more dangerous for the enterprising gunship captain.
EDIT: As an added bonus, you might even see transports become a choice vessel for piracy -- not just with the RP diehards but with the 10PM PST Liberty unlawful crowds.

A few of those harder transports together are a real challenge for a lone GB at present. Not so much for three GB's....

' Wrote:Two sides to a coin.

You resent pirates trying to rake in because its about the RP not the cash yet a big part your reason is that it costs you so much cash.

How about reduce trading where you can't make more than 250k on a run? Sounds a lot less acceptable when you put it like that--yet thats what you're asking pirates to accept.

I don't play a pirate but I can see how this is an extremely one-sided and mostly self-serving (for traders) presentation. It also subtly implies that pirates are lesser RPers and not as important as traders.

I don't think yet another rule--directed to restrict ONE side's play--is the solution to a perceived problem.

I can name three prominent faction members I've seen in the past few weeks using their 5k faction ships and ID to carry totally oorp cargo from their faction. Two I asked why they were doing it and the answer was, "I need the cash."

It's a two way street--and I don't play a pirate.

It's not about the cash so much as the fact that it presents so appealing an option at present that it runs the risk of creating a server over-represented by pirates.

' Wrote:Ah, the dilemma.

We need pirates on this server and piracy is a "legimate" form of rp.

We need traders. They add life to the systems they fly through (even the utterly non-responsive ones). They provide the plump target for the salacious criminal element of Sirius. This, in turn, justifies the presence of law enforcement and military.

My only serious beef, whine, complaint about our mod culminates in one thing: the good stuff, in particular, is ludicrous spendy. As in astronomically expensive. There's reasons for the high prices, all sorts of rationale based on perceptions of what passes for proper rp and how we integrate "reality" into a realm of pixels. I don't want to go off any further on that tangent in this post.

If you, dear reader, are honest with yourself, you hate trading. Ok, I won't paint with a broad brush, but I'm betting a good 90% of you truly dislike trading. Personally I hate it, hate it a lot.

I would be more inclined to cheerfully rp as a trader if I didn't have to trade countless hours to get the stuff I want. Grind, grind, grind - kind of reminds me of real work sometimes. Isn't one of the main reasons to play a game is to liberate oneself from the daily grind?

So, if a pirate stops me on one of my in-rp, power trading routes, I won't be cheerful. I won't even attempt to be so if the pirate is obviously wanting to make some money in a way that is infinitely more entertaining to him than to me. I won't say "kill me and get it over with" or some other nonsense. But I'm not going to be his monkey either. He demands, I pay and go on my way.

Now, if a pirate stops me and demands 500k, that tells me at least one thing about this player: his priorities lie in roleplaying. He is primarily concerned with being the pirate and giving me his piratey spiel. The monetary demand is a secondary matter that underscores his rp.

Amen to that. Trading sucks. It powers virtually everything that happens on the server, but you would have to have no life to finance a battleship with cap 8. Which will be rubbish against a few well-organised bombers. So what's the point?




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Messages In This Thread
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 09:15 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 09:19 AM
Piracy - by LivingOtta - 08-06-2009, 09:22 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 09:22 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 09:28 AM
Piracy - by worldstrider - 08-06-2009, 09:35 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Piracy - by Belco - 08-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 09:51 AM
Piracy - by NonSequitor - 08-06-2009, 10:02 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 10:04 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 10:27 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 10:42 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Piracy - by tansytansey - 08-06-2009, 11:19 AM
Piracy - by schlurbi - 08-06-2009, 11:58 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Piracy - by kikatsu - 08-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:24 PM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:37 PM
Piracy - by Agmen of Eladesor - 08-06-2009, 12:39 PM
Piracy - by Weedalot - 08-06-2009, 12:40 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Piracy - by Malexa - 08-06-2009, 12:47 PM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-06-2009, 12:54 PM
Piracy - by Mickk - 08-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Piracy - by kikatsu - 08-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Piracy - by Janus - 08-06-2009, 01:09 PM
Piracy - by deluca - 08-06-2009, 01:14 PM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-06-2009, 01:31 PM
Piracy - by worldstrider - 08-06-2009, 02:04 PM
Piracy - by carlabrams - 08-06-2009, 02:41 PM
Piracy - by Hawkwings - 08-06-2009, 05:18 PM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-06-2009, 05:46 PM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Piracy - by darthbeck - 08-06-2009, 10:29 PM
Piracy - by masternerdguy - 08-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Piracy - by Elsdragon - 08-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Piracy - by worldstrider - 08-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Piracy - by Taffic - 08-06-2009, 11:26 PM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-06-2009, 11:55 PM
Piracy - by Unseelie - 08-07-2009, 12:19 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 12:33 AM
Piracy - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 08-07-2009, 12:52 AM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-07-2009, 01:03 AM
Piracy - by Unseelie - 08-07-2009, 01:04 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 01:10 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-07-2009, 07:29 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 07:41 AM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-07-2009, 07:53 AM
Piracy - by captainjack - 08-07-2009, 08:03 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 08:11 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Piracy - by Alley - 08-07-2009, 08:34 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 08:38 AM
Piracy - by Quorg - 08-07-2009, 08:40 AM
Piracy - by Montezuma/Kukulcan - 08-07-2009, 08:49 AM
Piracy - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-07-2009, 09:08 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 10:37 AM
Piracy - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-07-2009, 11:01 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 11:05 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-07-2009, 11:10 AM
Piracy - by Malexa - 08-07-2009, 11:23 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-07-2009, 11:32 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 11:37 AM
Piracy - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-07-2009, 11:46 AM
Piracy - by Robert.Fitzgerald - 08-07-2009, 11:50 AM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-07-2009, 12:21 PM
Piracy - by tansytansey - 08-07-2009, 12:25 PM
Piracy - by BaconSoda - 08-07-2009, 08:05 PM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-07-2009, 08:25 PM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-07-2009, 08:55 PM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 11:39 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 11:42 PM

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