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Offline Athenian
08-07-2009, 07:29 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-07-2009, 07:30 AM by Athenian.)
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' Wrote:this thread boils down to "i want easy money, so dont pirate me"

I am not a pirate.
I have no pirate characters.
I have a trader.

This makes me SICK. I'm coming from EVE, where pirates do not have to RP or Honor ransoms. Stop whining and solve the problem intelligently. Solutions:
  1. hire escorts
  2. move in convoys
  3. carry countermeasures
  4. use the TAB key to thrust away when CDed
  5. make sure you have a cheetah thruster

I really wish people would read the whole thread before posting.

But let's take your suggestions:
a. What use is an escort against three gunboats?
b. What use is a convoy against three gunboats?
c. What use are countermeasures against three gunboats with CDs?
d. Show me someone who doesn't hit thrust 24/7.
e. Ugh...a what?

As for Eve. Well, as you put it yourself, it's not a RP game so comparisons are moot.

It's not so much a question of how to trade without getting pirated, more a question of how trading can be any way enjoyable at all. I think the way in which piracy effectively has rendered every single smaller freighter a pointless addition to the game is an issue as well.

' Wrote:As I read this thread, I saw, many times, "Trading Sucks"

Trading is grinding, and it its boring. The new system leads much to be desired after the novelty of it wears off, and making it any more organic than traffic control would require hundreds or thousands of hours of labor (or a computer program, a reasonably simple one, which I expect the freelancer devs used).

Traders are the bottom of the food chain, which fuels the rest of the standard RP structure (exceptions abound). Trading again, sucks. You're prey, and you're constantly running, because, in most every case of piracy or lawful interdiction, you have almost no chance of winning. If you're CDed, you've lost. You can bring friends, but your oppenets are stronger on a 1:1 ratio, and they keep that advantage as numbers increase. They have every imaginable combat edge, in a myriad of forms. So traders lose.

If traders are so important to the server that the administration spends its effort making sure people do not earn credits above 30 million an hour(and more than making sure it doesn't happen, removing credits earned, except for arms dealing..which is considered fair.), that the mod devs raise prices, why are steps not taken to make trading fun? I know, I know, the new tradesystem is supposed to be more fun(I much preferred the last), but I'd make the argument that its -goal- is not to liven up trading so much as to saturate traders throughout sirius, so every region gets a bit of the prey.

Piracy, many people claim, is the most fun part of trading. I agree, its quite exciting..But I've discovered that even in a Shire, or a liner...outside of the rp, which is generally better in a stronger ship, that a pirate encounter, after the RP has ended, is something I might as well lose. I come in to every hostile encounter with the expectation of losing. Trading Sucks.

If the server RP and action is founded on trading, why can't trading be fun? Why isn't it made more fun? Easy way to make it more fun? Give transports and even chance at -winning- a fight. Not escaping, or surviving, but bloody well succeeding in the encounter.

Nobody wants to play the losing side every time. Of course people hate trading.

Agreed. But how to make it fun? Give traders a better chance? Let's ask some people.

' Wrote:actually, pirates shouldn't help smugglers unless they share a faction.

Oh but they do. They treat each other as one huge happy family. It's appalling. No back-stabbing. No double-crossing. No robbing each other.




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Messages In This Thread
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 09:15 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 09:19 AM
Piracy - by LivingOtta - 08-06-2009, 09:22 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 09:22 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 09:28 AM
Piracy - by worldstrider - 08-06-2009, 09:35 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Piracy - by Belco - 08-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 09:51 AM
Piracy - by NonSequitor - 08-06-2009, 10:02 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 10:04 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 10:27 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 10:42 AM
Piracy - by Rudo - 08-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Piracy - by tansytansey - 08-06-2009, 11:19 AM
Piracy - by schlurbi - 08-06-2009, 11:58 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Piracy - by kikatsu - 08-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:24 PM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:37 PM
Piracy - by Agmen of Eladesor - 08-06-2009, 12:39 PM
Piracy - by Weedalot - 08-06-2009, 12:40 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Piracy - by Malexa - 08-06-2009, 12:47 PM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-06-2009, 12:54 PM
Piracy - by Mickk - 08-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Piracy - by kikatsu - 08-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Piracy - by Janus - 08-06-2009, 01:09 PM
Piracy - by deluca - 08-06-2009, 01:14 PM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-06-2009, 01:31 PM
Piracy - by worldstrider - 08-06-2009, 02:04 PM
Piracy - by carlabrams - 08-06-2009, 02:41 PM
Piracy - by Hawkwings - 08-06-2009, 05:18 PM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-06-2009, 05:46 PM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Piracy - by darthbeck - 08-06-2009, 10:29 PM
Piracy - by masternerdguy - 08-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Piracy - by Elsdragon - 08-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Piracy - by worldstrider - 08-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Piracy - by Taffic - 08-06-2009, 11:26 PM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-06-2009, 11:55 PM
Piracy - by Unseelie - 08-07-2009, 12:19 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 12:33 AM
Piracy - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 08-07-2009, 12:52 AM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-07-2009, 01:03 AM
Piracy - by Unseelie - 08-07-2009, 01:04 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 01:10 AM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-07-2009, 07:29 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 07:41 AM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-07-2009, 07:53 AM
Piracy - by captainjack - 08-07-2009, 08:03 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 08:11 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Piracy - by Alley - 08-07-2009, 08:34 AM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 08:38 AM
Piracy - by Quorg - 08-07-2009, 08:40 AM
Piracy - by Montezuma/Kukulcan - 08-07-2009, 08:49 AM
Piracy - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-07-2009, 09:08 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 10:37 AM
Piracy - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-07-2009, 11:01 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 11:05 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-07-2009, 11:10 AM
Piracy - by Malexa - 08-07-2009, 11:23 AM
Piracy - by Bass_masta992 - 08-07-2009, 11:32 AM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 11:37 AM
Piracy - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-07-2009, 11:46 AM
Piracy - by Robert.Fitzgerald - 08-07-2009, 11:50 AM
Piracy - by Guest - 08-07-2009, 12:21 PM
Piracy - by tansytansey - 08-07-2009, 12:25 PM
Piracy - by BaconSoda - 08-07-2009, 08:05 PM
Piracy - by Benjamin - 08-07-2009, 08:25 PM
Piracy - by Athenian - 08-07-2009, 08:55 PM
Piracy - by Exsiled_one - 08-07-2009, 11:39 PM
Piracy - by reavengitair - 08-07-2009, 11:42 PM

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