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Faction as a property
Offline Tigger
06-13-2012, 05:24 PM,
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Molly Princess
Posts: 564
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Joined: May 2011

For the most part I say live or fold is up to the membership. How the faction is structured to me determines whether it's property or not.

An example of property for me would be Sea Spirit. I designed and built the company and I chose to move it to an inRP base rather than in-game one after doing investment merger RP with three other factions. Members became members of those other factions and the Sea Spirit channel became a place for friends to hang out - albeit rather unused in favor of my personal friends channel. Thing is, for that faction, I own it lock, stock, and barrel. It's not the same with others, however.

In one group a former leader decided he wanted to be leader again and to stage a coup after an OORP personal relationship breakup. They instigated forum RP to try and oust the lead, but it failed. As the song goes, breaking up is hard to do, but attempting something inRP because of OORP feelings about a break up is lame.


ALG has had 2 leads and 3 or 4 2iC's in the last year. We have activity but few actually interested in a leadership position. I run it with an HC as an advisory board and should I leave it will be in their hands. We've discussed dissolving the faction on numerous occasions but activity has been okay. Our current 2iC is being groomed for the lead postion and we'll probably me making that changeover soon ™.

Mollys run via the lead and the 2IC. We have an HC council staffed with veteran members including 3 former faction leads acting as advisors. The history of the faction combined with the structure is that I don't consider myself as having authority to dissolve it if I wanted to try (which I don't). We have over 30 shared ships, some dating back two official factions ago - not including the banks and armories. Every single veteran player in the Mollys has poured time, energy, credits and ships into creating it to get to offiical status and maintaining it. No one person can dissolve it without the membership agreeing to it. As the leader all it means is it's up to me to make the tough calls and to force myself to do forumlancing. :) The membership owns [M]- not me.


In regards to Kishiro the dissolution and reinstatement of official status is somewhat involved. The 2IC had left the faction some time before the faction was dissolved. Activity was low and the membership was polled prior to Timo's announcement that the faction was dissolving. Several members went to Samura. As 3IC (and then 2IC after the prevoius 2IC left) I saw the whole thing from the inside. Afterwards, the ex-2IC created a new Kishiro faction using the same tag. Until recently it had considered itself to be an unofficial faction. It was when an inquiry as to going for official status again that it was informed that the status had remained unchanged in the admin team's eyes. The current Kishiro has only a couple of members from the former Kishiro but it's trying to increase it's activity. Most of the members are new but are some good people.


It's my personal opinion that what happened with IDF pretty much sucks. Former leader returned to disco and asked the current leader to step down - which he did. The faction lead decided to build a base, and then a second base, and some members got tired of the grind and/or had exams so their activity dropped some. There were also some issues with the partners in one base using the passwords to muck around with the sales/purchasing so that it was daily deteriorating from lack of crew and other things. Fast forward a bit and the faction lead ragequit Disco (again). This time, however, he gave the master passwords to the bases to another faction. He also gave away the faction's barge and bank, among other things. The faction was locked out ofthe bases and could only sit back and watch as the modules were destroyed using the admin commands and the bases were deliberately destroyed. All in all, that's pretty low. That same leader had also determined that there should be no 2IC nor any HC so that he would be the only person in charge.


As a former =CR= member I'm not aware of the membership being asked about dissolving it. I wasn't in the faction at the time but in talking with members, it was purely a leadership and HC decision and the members left to suffer. While never a member of the Omicroners, I've been led to believe it was similar there. The fact that many of the former Omicroner members immediately formed a new faction (of which I was a part for a short time) tells me that the membership was wanting the faction to remain.


Thus, how the faction is structured seems to bear a lot of weight in regards to whether the membership has a say or not. Additionally the winds of time bring change. What may have been acceptable for a faction lead alone a year ago to determine may not be acceptable today, yet might be acceptable a month from now. Personally, while writing this I've come to think that a faction should have it posted what the guidelines are for its structure and who is and isn't permitted to attempt to dissolve it.


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Messages In This Thread
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-13-2012, 05:51 AM
Faction as a property - by Zelot - 06-13-2012, 06:08 AM
Faction as a property - by Dab - 06-13-2012, 06:13 AM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-13-2012, 06:13 AM
Faction as a property - by Zelot - 06-13-2012, 06:22 AM
Faction as a property - by Markus_Janus - 06-13-2012, 06:40 AM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-13-2012, 06:44 AM
Faction as a property - by Widow - 06-13-2012, 06:48 AM
Faction as a property - by jammi - 06-13-2012, 07:14 AM
Faction as a property - by Death.RunningVerminator - 06-13-2012, 07:17 AM
Faction as a property - by Markus_Janus - 06-13-2012, 07:25 AM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-13-2012, 07:30 AM
Faction as a property - by Death.RunningVerminator - 06-13-2012, 07:30 AM
Faction as a property - by SMI-Great.Fox - 06-13-2012, 07:46 AM
Faction as a property - by Widow - 06-13-2012, 08:25 AM
Faction as a property - by Knjaz - 06-13-2012, 09:08 AM
Faction as a property - by Skullz - 06-13-2012, 09:43 AM
Faction as a property - by ophidian - 06-13-2012, 12:17 PM
Faction as a property - by Silver - 06-13-2012, 01:21 PM
Faction as a property - by Tigger - 06-13-2012, 05:24 PM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-13-2012, 05:33 PM
Faction as a property - by SparkyRailgun - 06-13-2012, 05:49 PM
Faction as a property - by Coin - 06-13-2012, 06:35 PM
Faction as a property - by Dashiell - 06-13-2012, 07:23 PM
Faction as a property - by Silver - 06-13-2012, 07:26 PM
Faction as a property - by Agmen of Eladesor - 06-13-2012, 07:46 PM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Faction as a property - by Tunicle - 06-13-2012, 09:56 PM
Faction as a property - by ProwlerPC - 06-13-2012, 09:58 PM
Faction as a property - by Soul Reaper - 06-14-2012, 12:43 AM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-14-2012, 05:04 AM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-14-2012, 05:26 AM
Faction as a property - by Altejago - 06-14-2012, 05:54 AM
Faction as a property - by ProwlerPC - 06-14-2012, 06:02 AM
Faction as a property - by Altejago - 06-14-2012, 06:03 AM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-14-2012, 06:32 AM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-14-2012, 06:37 AM
Faction as a property - by Altejago - 06-14-2012, 06:40 AM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-14-2012, 06:52 AM
Faction as a property - by Markus_Janus - 06-14-2012, 06:54 AM
Faction as a property - by Altejago - 06-14-2012, 07:00 AM
Faction as a property - by Ipuvaepe - 06-14-2012, 07:02 AM
Faction as a property - by Altejago - 06-14-2012, 07:03 AM
Faction as a property - by Ipuvaepe - 06-14-2012, 07:06 AM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-14-2012, 07:06 AM
Faction as a property - by Altejago - 06-14-2012, 07:10 AM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-14-2012, 07:11 AM
Faction as a property - by Altejago - 06-14-2012, 07:12 AM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-14-2012, 07:21 AM
Faction as a property - by Widow - 06-14-2012, 07:22 AM
Faction as a property - by Ipuvaepe - 06-14-2012, 07:27 AM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-14-2012, 07:32 AM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-14-2012, 07:34 AM
Faction as a property - by Dab - 06-14-2012, 07:35 AM
Faction as a property - by Widow - 06-14-2012, 07:36 AM
Faction as a property - by ProwlerPC - 06-14-2012, 08:03 AM
Faction as a property - by Markus_Janus - 06-14-2012, 08:09 AM
Faction as a property - by Daedric - 06-14-2012, 08:11 AM
Faction as a property - by Dane Summers - 06-14-2012, 08:36 AM
Faction as a property - by Widow - 06-14-2012, 09:24 AM
Faction as a property - by Benjamin - 06-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Faction as a property - by Snak6 - 06-14-2012, 02:36 PM

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