Rescaling the Kusari Destroyer

[mjolnir]

QUOTE(pipboy @ May 8 2010, 12:58 AM) *

The Kusari destroyer is in no way overpowered.
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You're right, it's not. But that is not the issue here, the issue is the Kusari Destroyer is halting progress, holding back all the rest of the Cruisers. If they recieve any sort of buff, the Kusari Destoyer becomes and uberpwn ship.
Incorrect. Check first post for size comparisons.

The Kusari destroyer in current form (very small but with limited arcs) is not halting any "progress" for the rest of the cruisers.

With just one heavy slot that won't fire back (4.86 heavy slot), it can't hurt any ship bigger than a fighter when firing backwards.
At the same time when solaris are used on it, they still are limited with the firing arcs and turning.


The BHG destroyer is about 1.6x bigger in overall size than Kusari destroyer, but the front/rear profile itself is not that much bigger, while as mentioned it has 8 turrets firing backwards.

BHG destroyer with 2 razors and 6 solaris is what limits how good solaris/razors on cruisers can be now [, because it has no obvious disadvantage that a group of ships can use against it.
That said there are other cruisers that have a front profile very close to BHG Dessie and have even bigger powerplant and armor (OC Dessie, Rheinland Cruiser). So the cruiser solaris are basically at the top of what is possible with many current cruisers. Razor is getting some upgrade due to the new slot limitations, but as Kusari dessie was going to have just 1 slot that fires only forward, it's again not the limiting factor.



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1. The destroyer is balanced in current form

- Dies to 1 bomber and 1 fighter most of the time.
- Dies to Bretonian Destroyer 1vs1
- Can't hurt a BS alone
- Is impossible to defeat with 1 GB (just like any other cruiser with normal pilot)

2. It doesn't limit guns for any other cruiser (given 4.86 heavy slots)


Various other ships of small profile and good arcs set the limit instead (BHG Dessie, OC Dessie, Rheinland Cruiser)

=> There's no "need" to upscale it.

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What needs to be addressed if it would be upscaled:

1. Would the rescaled vanilla hitbox work for the different parts of the ship?

2. Would the texture work?

I do not know answers to these. Texture ought to work, hitbox.. impossible to say without testing.

Balance-wise following changes would be needed:

- Adding the 2 vanilla turrets which are currently disabled on it. These both fire back, 1 of them also forward. => That will make it have 10 guns forward 4 back

- it will be re-assigned to 2 heavy 360 degree slots (like BHG Dessie)

- turning will be decreased but will be still slightly better than BHG Dessie


=> Result would be a ship close to BHG Dessie in performance at the cost of some variety in the mod.
I'm not really fan of that, just like I don't like adding 6th gun on Wrath, removing 7th gun (turret) from Sabre, rescaling Werewolf or giving Corsairs a fast turning VHF to name just a few proposals that aim to change ships to achieve more uniform performance.

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