Xenos and Pirate Ships

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It's Sindy. He can SNAC Liberators in his Barghest... All bombers only have one role for Sindy: pwnage.

Personal finger pointing? At whom? I was making a very broad spectrum finger point. I don't mind you undermining my arguments as long as you bring valuable information to the table, which you seem to have done.
I wish I had a sandwich board... maybe then people would take me seriously.
Okay you got me there, I can't pull a long list off the top of my head, especially without being accused of trial by forums.

Lulz, Tridentes. They're possibly the easiest ship to kill ever. I was flying my vigilante Roc yesterday, coming back from a training in Conn. I got attacked out of the blue by an Outcast Tridente. Me and my wingman beat the crap out of him, neither one of us had many regens (he had 0, I had 12), he had no ammo, and the Tridente had two missiles. Blight? More like easy money for Mercenaries... Tridente's might be numerous but they're terrible ships... I'd sooner fight one of those solo than a Roc or Eagle. As for Falcata's, I haven't noticed as much of them, if anything I'd say there's less of them now.

The Roc is only marginally larger than the Eagle, certainly not the biggest bomber out there. It's flat shape gives it a narrow front profile. It does have a wide wingspan, but those wings are very thin. With a fitting hitbox, it's roughly the same size as a BHG Bomber rotated 90 degrees. Most bombers have their torpedo mounts rotated 180 degrees on the x axis, meaning they are upside down. This limits their firing arc from shooting targets above them. The Roc, however, has torpedo hardpoints that are rightside up. When tested in conneticuit, I found this gives the Roc an advantage over other bombers by extending the angle which it can fire at a target passing over top of it by a significant amount when compared to the Falcata. (I compare the Roc to the Falcata a lot because I consider Civi and BW ships to be rivals)
I don't know much about the turning stats of the ships, but from experience fighting the Roc, it's deffinately faster turning than the Falcata. I find myself having to pull off fancy turn manouvers just to keep up with a Roc that's turning normally.
As for the Eagle... I don't even know how to begin arguing that. It was the fastest turning VHF in Vanilla, and I assume it's stats haven't been changed. I don't know, I haven't checked. It has a very small front profile compared with other VHFs (House VHFs don't count, because they're VHFs in an HFs body). The Eagle even turns faster than some HFs, such as the Greyhound. It does have a small powerplant, but no one shoots continuously. Everytime you turn your power plant gets a chance to recover, I find that unless your ship is faster than your opponents, power plant means little. Oh wait... I guess that's your problem there. The Eagle is reknowned for being an excellent dogfighter, I can't believe I have to explain that <_<

Give it time...

This much I know. I'd probably present the same argument if I was in your position too. This isn't just about PvP, though, believe it or not.

How about instead of nerfing a bomber we up the rest?