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Corsair Order alliance
Offline Klaw117
08-19-2009, 05:25 PM,
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' Wrote:
' Wrote:Okay, this is a mod design question. The Corsair/Order alliance was not set up just to assign Osiris to corsairs. It looks cool in patrols, yes, better than most custom ships would look. However, it's still not a reason.

Diplomacy in nomad worlds is tough business. Several factions are represented: The Order, who guard against nomads and exploit local resources; Corsairs, who exploit resources and attack lawfuls like Bounty Hunters and Liberty military; Zoners, who just trade (and, again, try to explore and get whatever goods of value they can get). On the other side, there's Liberty Navy and Bounty Hunters, who expand into the Nomad systems from Alaska. Interests of Liberty remain uncertain, other than studying Nomads in order to prevent further intrusions. Bounty Hunters are obviously financed by Liberty government to protect their operations.

And there are nomads, who are hostile to everyone.

What happened to The Order after the war? I'll cover that part in the new mod version if I'll have time, since the info seems to be necessary. First of all, it's obvious that Liberty government tried to conceal the role that Order played in the war. The events that happened to Trent never came to be fully known to general public, even though Jacobi knew (and awarded Trent with the Lone Star). For Liberty public, The Order was still a dangerous terrorist organization that somehow helped against nomads, but didn't became less dangerous after that (possibly it became more dangerous and gained more power).

Jacobi could not be a president for life, of course. Her successor was much less tolerable with The Order issues, and demanded a full investigation. LSF and Navy used this order to eliminate all Order agents in Liberty, and tighten Alaska patrols to prevent all possible intrusions of The Order. This meant that most supply lines for The Order were cut off, and the faction turned towards Corsairs because food was lacking, metals were lacking, and pilots were lacking. Corsairs, who already established an outpost in the nearby Delta, seemed to be the only hope. Of course, not everyone in The Order was sure about this decision, including Orilion himself; but his role as a spiritual leader declined, and many of his old followers were already dead, killed in fights with Nomads. The new Order leaders did not hezitate to ally with criminals for survival and money. Liberty considered them criminals anyway, and they had no access to the systems of other Houses.

Outcasts... well, they fought for The Order not quite because they were allies, but because Nomads were a common threat. All factions played a certain role in fighting Nomads back. As far as I can remember, there was only one Outcast ship in the Order fleet that fought against Nomads in the final missions.

The Rheinland issue. Well, cleansing Rheinland from Nomad-infested people did not happen because The Order destroyed several battleships, and Bundschuh were far too weak to do this themselves. Again, a question for the storyline to answer. Someday.
' Wrote:What's wrong about the rumor?

I don't think that it's wrong for Outcasts to have The Order on their enemy list. They never fight each other, right? So there's no open confrontation. No systems where both factions are present. As for the enemy... well, since Corsairs help The Order, Order became a part of Corsair coalition. That's quite simple, and I don't see any problems about that.

Why Order is not allied with Blood Dragons, or Bundschuh? Probably some ties between them remain. But both factions are just too far away to influence the situation.

Meanwhile, you might be right about enemy list. Maybe it's worth to remove them from one another's enemies... they don't fight each other, right?:)
This should tell you why Order should be allied with the Corsairs and more.

I am getting sick of all these "Screw the Order-Corsair Alliance" topics. This has been established as in-game canon, meaning it will not go away for quite some time.
I posted this in another topic. Looks like I'll have to do it here too.

Carlos Rivera: Corsair Brotherhood Pirate - Retired, shifted to Tripoli Shipyard's Research and Development engineering teams
Anthony Cameron: Guild Core Bounty Hunter - Killed in Action, committed suicide after being trapped in Omicron Minor following its destruction
Juan Ruiz: Outcast Ghost of Razgriz Pirate - Killed in Action, killed by the Sirius Coalition Revolutionary Army during Bretonian piracy raid
Michael Winchester: Liberty Security Force Agent - Missing in Action, likely killed during Rheinland espionage mission or trapped in Rheinland Space
Eric McCormick: Order Pilot - Retired, shifted to planetside training of new recruits

Liberty and Nomad Backstory, Very interesting - read it!
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Corsair Order alliance - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Tomtomrawr - 08-18-2009, 06:42 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by globalplayer-svk - 08-18-2009, 06:44 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-18-2009, 06:44 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Death.RunningVerminator - 08-18-2009, 06:54 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Tomtomrawr - 08-18-2009, 06:56 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by globalplayer-svk - 08-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by NonSequitor - 08-18-2009, 07:04 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Lutz - 08-18-2009, 07:05 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Death.RunningVerminator - 08-18-2009, 07:12 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 07:18 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by globalplayer-svk - 08-18-2009, 07:23 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 07:25 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 07:28 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 07:34 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by dead_shot - 08-18-2009, 07:41 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by globalplayer-svk - 08-18-2009, 07:47 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 07:52 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 07:54 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zig - 08-18-2009, 07:55 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by NonSequitor - 08-18-2009, 07:57 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by globalplayer-svk - 08-18-2009, 08:03 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 08:05 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Lutz - 08-18-2009, 08:05 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Guest - 08-18-2009, 08:15 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 08:17 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 08:18 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Eppy - 08-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Guest - 08-18-2009, 08:24 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 08:26 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Sprolf - 08-18-2009, 09:40 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 09:48 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zelot - 08-18-2009, 09:53 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zelot - 08-18-2009, 09:58 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Nathan - 08-18-2009, 09:58 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Nathan - 08-18-2009, 10:03 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 10:13 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Thurgret - 08-18-2009, 10:16 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Nathan - 08-18-2009, 10:19 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zeltak - 08-18-2009, 10:19 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Elsdragon - 08-18-2009, 10:20 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Eppy - 08-18-2009, 10:24 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by globalplayer-svk - 08-18-2009, 10:27 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 10:42 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zelot - 08-18-2009, 10:43 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by teschy - 08-18-2009, 10:48 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Zelot - 08-18-2009, 10:56 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Death.RunningVerminator - 08-18-2009, 11:03 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Dieter Schprokets - 08-18-2009, 11:09 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by globalplayer-svk - 08-18-2009, 11:17 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 11:18 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Canaris - 08-18-2009, 11:23 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Lucend - 08-18-2009, 11:36 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Agmen of Eladesor - 08-19-2009, 12:11 AM
Corsair Order alliance - by darthbeck - 08-19-2009, 03:13 PM
Corsair Order alliance - by Klaw117 - 08-19-2009, 05:25 PM

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