JakeSG - Now , I'm going to disregard the post you made about "skill" and the fact that , the way you put it , everyone who complains about something which is not so well balanced , lacks it.
What I meant to say with the "double life" post , was that bombers should sacrifice as well , like every other ship class in Discovery does. The term "bomber" , does the work for the balance team , because it say's exactly what the ship should do. It's not named "all around ship" , or "Swedish Knife" , it's named "Bomber".
There are many things which can be taken away from the class , all thanks to the simple fact that it has so many features. For instance - mines , guns , thruster , EK ability , shield and why not make the SNAC an actual projectile , one which people can CD. Some of the things can be removed from the bomber , making it more of a specialized ship , then an "all around" one.
' Wrote:3. Use less caps. - People who use caps as their primary ships hate this because it makes them feel less manly. Everybody else loves it because it means less imba fights.
My main ship is the "Aurora" , Osiris Battleship. I like using it , more then any other ship in the mod. Yes , truly it makes me very manly , strong and all mighty. Not only that , but I like "loling" and "lolwutting" in it , just to make people attack me and see how strong I am in it.
That may have been the type of post you would expect from someone who likes flying a Battleship more the anything else , but I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you. I fly the ship because my main characters role play is tied to it , my position in the faction is tied to it and because my in game RP is more enjoyable and calm when in it. However , I also have quite a few bombers which I fly only when they are needed , that's why I can say that they do need further balancing , because the ship itself doesn't fly like a bomber. I feel the same level of security when I fly it against a Cruiser and against a Fighter. Now that's not right. Compared to every other ship class , the bomber is the only ship you can do everything with and do it , almost , equally well.
When it comes to three bombers against a Battleship , with any form of weapon combination , cap.8 and even 2 fighters as an escort. It's not a matter of skill for the Battleship to survive , it's a matter of time before it dies. You see , "skill" is that which allows you to push your ship a little further beyond what it average performance is , fly it a little better. But "skill" is limited to the overall ability of the ship itself. Meaning that although I've flown my battleship for more then an year now , my skill level is not that different from someone flying a battleship for the third time. Bombers are very different in this manner , a bomber pilot who is also skillful can push his ship as far as winning against any other ship class in the mod in a 1v1 battle. A lot of people who've done that also brag about it , I've heard Sindroms say he took down a Lib. BC all by himself , I took down a RM Battleship with only another bomber and countless more , when it reality there isn't much to be proud about. The bomber can easily do that because it allows the pilot to reach a level of skill , which surpasses every other ship in the mod. Caps and other ships in general - can't do that , no matter how skillful you are. Get it now ?
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' Wrote:I suppose my capital ship point defense topic them ages ago got capital ship point defense weapons buffed by "grace of mods?" No. You create such a fuster that they have to come, which is what we did, and they listened. However, I use a mixed loadout on my Juggernaut, and I still can kill a cap 8 mako (it was in a battle simulation) and he was Apocalypse_Now. What does that say about your theory? The specific class name just says what the ship is BEST against. It does not condem you to loadout your ship one way or another. Ive got eleven primaries and two mortars, by the way.
Since I just now realized this was directed towards me , I will reply.
Although I know you are pretty skillful in a Battleship , you should be aware of the fact that the Mako is currently and has been for quite some time , useless. The only thing good about it is it's superb design , but good looks don't make it more useful. The ship is deprived from meaning and idea , I have raised the topic about a complete makeover for it , but people decided to discard it , however that ship isn't the general topic of this discussion.
You killed a Mako with your mix loaded Jugg. , simply because you have 3x or so more armor and the Mako is forced to fight you from a close distance. There is no way it can win against a heavy Battleship , no way at all , no matter what tactic or weapons it uses.
However , if we take away the Mako from that scene and replace it with a RM BS / Legate / Osiris / Outcasts Dreadnought , do you still think you would have won with that mixed load out?
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