bombers (discussion only)

[Colonel Z.e.r.o.]

I think that this old chestnut of a problem is due to a few factors:

1) Fear that the lolwutters in their capships will wreak chaos on everyone's roleplay. The bombers are considered to be one of the best de facto counters to poor rp. See a lolwutter - take him out with 3 bombers. All done. If we "nerf" the bombers, we lose our roleplay police.

I do believe that a least a fraction of bomber pilots today are a result of being fed up with the overuse of capship by "lolwutters".

2) Many dedicated bomber pilots know they have a good thing going and are not going to buy into any idea of making their primary ship more specialized.

But of course, with that SNAC they can effectively down any shieldless fighter or bomber in the mod. A BH bomber was able to take dual mini razor shots and still have a bar of health left (granted he had Armor VIII equipped.) Not only that, they can also out run any capitalship engaging it currently (shield running) and come back again, fire (at an even greater distance than 4.84), once the shield is low enough, steadily fire off class 10 shieled/hullbusters (while being careful not to put too much strain on their recharging efforts) the pop another one away at the hull. Rise, repeat.

3) Scornstar's axiom (his observation, not his personal opinion): Smaller ship = greater rp value; Larger ship = lesser rp value. This attitude is alive and well on this server. Inevitably, some 14-year old will question your rp and pvp skills in system chat, because you happen to be in a capship - "Wut a noob! needs a BS to fite 4 bomburs!", all the while lobbing SNACs at your ship. A ship that happens to be 100 times larger than his. It seems to me that bomber pilot in this case (not all bomber pilots are like this) puts more value in pvp-skills than in rp-skills.

This is a symptom of a larger problem: lack of respect for one another as players. In reality, good rp quality is not determined by the ship class, but by how the ship is used in different situations. I've seen engaging rp from miners and craptacular rp from fighters.

People are so accustomed to the likelyhood of a battleship pilot being just some silent power trader with little to no regards for the RP customs of this server. They've almost completely shut off their ears and minds to the possibility of that battleship pilot having some will to RP more than simply "engagin", unless, of course, they have a faction tag, a 30 page RP story, and 800 posts on the forums.

Those of us who primarily fly capships got a mixed bag with the new mod. Some things were improved, other things got nerfed three ways to Sunday. As a result, capships lost a lot of flexibility in order to balance out overall gameplay. In line with much of what Eternal had to say on the matter, I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask bomber pilots for some sacrifices. Bombers should be primarily bombers - capship killers. Fighters should be efficient at killing bombers. And bombers would actually need escorts to keep enemy fighters off of them.

Very true, the prime reason, Bounty hunter capships were restricted to the Omicrons was because all the hate the 4.84 Battlecruiser got from....everyone. Even enemy cruisers were no match for it, so in response the were restricted to edgeworld space, in they rival's ship (namely the Geb) easily over powered it, and it's user base completely ignored by all, not matter how reasonable their proposal was. Basically, because of the mistakes of the past (namely the fault of the lolwutting bhg BC, all capship users were made to suffer to some degree, whether it be ID changes, or nerfs/buffs, it is saf to say many of them were on account of the complaint about the lolwutters

If the pilot takes the time to improve his skill in a bomber and too improve his SNAC aiming capability.

Then he has every right to be better than any of the fools that joust him in a fighter.

Any fighter pilots that say:
"Hey how comes that bomber killed me within Two seconds?"

The simple answer is: You are not good enough with that ship, Learn too dodge, learn too strafe and get behind your enemy.

Never...Ever confront and Joust a bomber pilot in a fighter.

Yeah it's perfectly RP to exploit game mechanics in order to kill a fighter with the prime anti capitalship in the mod.

By the way, that's kinda the main reason I supported Obama in the November elections. He proposed a military training program that would allow submarine crews to effectively down supersonic fighters with torpedoes.

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