Opening up Gallia

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1.) GRN wants to bring pain to every faction in the Sirius Sector, especially the Outcasts - cardamine would seriously harm Gallia at this time. Thus the Outcasts are enemies.

2.) I'd like a Gallic Junker ID, but that's just me.

3.) Strategically ridiculous. The Council is cut in two, divided and recovering from heavy casualties from breaking the minefield, and you expect them to be able to take the prime Royalist center of activity in the Gallic Border Worlds? No thanks.

4.) If you can get the factions to RP it out, sure, why not? Personally, I would think any Sirius faction would eye ANY Gallic force with suspicion and distrust, but they have minds and can decide for themselves.

1. /signed, nothing need be said.
2. /signed, even though some would argue that the Sirian Junkers and Gallic Junkers are one and the same, the simply fact of the matter is that they Aren't. Canon RP for Sirian Junkers is that they originated from Gallia, true. But Canon RP for Sirian Junkers is also that the larger majority of them -Lost The Truth of Their Origins-. This key part is the basis for Marcel Touvier's hostility towards Sirian Junkers in that they must be reminded of where their place is in their allegience with the Gallic Royals.
3. /signed, the Council from both an RP perspective and a Metagame perspective are small. We essentially only have the Chaumont (an NPC BS), and for lack of knowledge of any other player battleship, the Dunkerque. Gallic Royals have the Carcassone, Guillestre, Embrun, Beauvray, Rocroi, Epinal, and whatever is rumored to lie within New Paris. Along with the Chant du Cygne and maybe 1-2 other player battleships.
----It is worth noting that of those NPC Battleships named for the Gallic Royals, 4 of them are on Council Borders. The Rocroi, Epinal, Guillestre, and Carcassone

Nomad Lore points to Nomad-Outcast truce due to the Outcast not being human. The religious treatment of nomads suggests that Outcasts look up to nomads as higher beings. Therefore they would not support GRN, whose goals contrast those of Nomads.

Note that Outcast ID restricts the attacking of Nomads, except in self-defense. Nomads are still perfectly capable of attacking Outcasts if they see fit to do so as none of the nomad IDs restrict the attacking of Outcasts, and only mentions them as the only group they can choose to ally with. Not that they must ally with them.

Edit:

The problem with Gallia at the moment is that it's so damn isolationist, and in order to open it up were going to inevitably bend or break this rule in one way or another.

I missed it.
I saw it.
I facepalmed.

Gallia is so damned isolationist because the people of Gallia outside of the Council and their supporters are Isolationists.

Edit2:

Its also worth noting that Council Alliances with Sirian Factions have been attempted before. The idea was flamed for the "major change of RP it would cause" even though there wouldn't have even been a "minor change of RP" as it was merely an agreement to allow the trade between the Council and Sirian Factions to have an RP'ed Origin instead of no background at all aside from the slightly new (very recent) notice given by Admins to allow Council ships into the Taus

Threads worth Reading related to this edit:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37003 -- This one is not as important as the ones below
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36111 -- This one is not as important as the ones below
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33539 -- The Treaty of Reunion being worked with Bretonia that is mentioned in the other 2 links. Note that it has been inactive for 5. This is because of all the negativity it received.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33557 -- A portion of this thread is against the Treaty of Reunion for various reasons I refuse to go through and list.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33541 -- A thread started as a generic discussion about the Treaty of Reunion because people saw it wasn't right that Bretonia laid claim to a contested system in the Bretonia Kusari War