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Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs.

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Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs.
Offline jammi
09-05-2009, 09:34 AM,
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1) Yes.
2) No.
3) No.

1) - I think the Rogues should go back to smuggling Artifacts, because this might go some way as to resolving the somewhat overblown and misrepresented Outcast/Corsair war. Only handling Cardimine shows a level of morals as well (in a strange kind of way - not aiding an allies enemy), which doesn't sit well with my image of the Rogues. I'm sure they'd be spreading out in every direction the underworld offered to try and corner the market.

The main problem with Rogues going back to smuggling Artifacts is the news articles scattered across various unlawful bases: "ANTI-CORSAIR COALITION BROADENS", "ROGUES JOIN ANTI-CORAIR COALITION", "ANTI-CORSAIR COALITION TALKS HELD ON BUFFALO." As well as many other gripping titles. They'd have to be vanished before the Rogues could revert back to their original state.


2) No, the Rogues shouldn't go to neutral with both. I'm sure if the Rogues ever actually met the Corsairs in Vanilla, they'd have been listed as friendly too. The Rogues seem to be friendly with the people they do business with. They wouldn't have ever met the Corsairs, because the leg that moved the Artifacts to them was done by the Hackers (another faction that could get in on this), who also wouldn't have seen the Corsairs, because I think they received them from the Hogsha.

Back when they traded both commodities, they had no trouble maintaining the unknown/friendly stance with the Corsairs and Outcasts. The Outcasts shouldn't be particularly worried because all they used the Rogues for was moving the Cardimine through the last leg across the New York system. And the Rogues only got that bit because the Outcasts didn't want the death toll that came with the run pinned on them.

Of course, none of this actually bares much water any more. Discovery has twisted a perfectly good working system of shades of grey and replaced it with a black-and-white newspaper background.



3) Sure, have fixed diplomacy with major groups such as the Lane Hackers and your other Libertonian friends. That just represents the status-quo, not people ambassadors in tweed jackets going over to other people's base to thresh out details of alliances. As a player faction the Rogue's diplomacy is as fluid as anyone else's - change it as you get offended or befriended though. The faction's diplomacy doesn't need to be dictated to by the hardcoded stuff. If someone shoots a Rogue ship, word is going to spread. "They're Rogue killers". "They killed my best mate". "They killed my best mate's mate". Then there is the hostility that you get as a return from agression.

And having ingame fluid diplomacy is a very bad idea when applied to the NPC faction as a whole. Imagine an indy loldessie deciding that the Hackers were hostile to him because it was down to him as an individual. You get a PvP rampage.



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Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Guest - 08-31-2009, 11:11 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Soul Reaper - 08-31-2009, 11:17 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Dab - 08-31-2009, 11:23 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by swift - 08-31-2009, 11:32 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Guest - 08-31-2009, 11:37 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Grimly - 09-01-2009, 12:28 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by reavengitair - 09-01-2009, 12:37 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Exsiled_one - 09-01-2009, 12:38 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by jdftheman - 09-01-2009, 12:39 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Marcus Lindberg - 09-01-2009, 12:48 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by schlurbi - 09-01-2009, 12:58 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Guest - 09-01-2009, 02:55 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Blodo - 09-01-2009, 03:25 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Cyberanson - 09-01-2009, 03:32 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by obnoxious1 - 09-01-2009, 04:00 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by DarthCloakedGuy - 09-01-2009, 04:51 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Eppy - 09-01-2009, 05:02 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by obnoxious1 - 09-01-2009, 05:09 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Blodo - 09-02-2009, 04:36 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by BaconSoda - 09-02-2009, 04:43 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Blodo - 09-02-2009, 04:58 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Klaw117 - 09-02-2009, 05:16 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Dusty Lens - 09-02-2009, 05:38 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Pinko - 09-02-2009, 06:30 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by tansytansey - 09-02-2009, 06:31 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by DarthCloakedGuy - 09-03-2009, 01:01 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by tansytansey - 09-03-2009, 06:45 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Ayem - 09-03-2009, 01:44 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by teschy - 09-03-2009, 01:55 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by tansytansey - 09-03-2009, 02:06 PM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by casero - 09-05-2009, 07:05 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Violette - 09-05-2009, 09:03 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by jammi - 09-05-2009, 09:34 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Exsiled_one - 09-05-2009, 09:36 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Violette - 09-05-2009, 09:39 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by blubba - 09-05-2009, 09:50 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Violette - 09-05-2009, 10:23 AM
Liberty rogues, Artifacts, Cardi and Outcasts and Corsairs. - by Ayem - 09-05-2009, 12:21 PM

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