Queen Carina's Privateers

[reisiger_duke]

Basically, we made ridiculous demands, expecting to get less than half of them. We'd get what we really wanted, and the Zoners would save face publicly. At least, that's what we expected.

Yes, you made ridiculous demands... so ridiculous that you knew that not a single one - apart from not using blanket bounties - would be accepted as is, which is not even worth being considered a way to start negotiations.

Given, if all that nonsense about the QCP talking for other factions is cut out, in the end it all revolves around the NFZ, and you made your concerns about it being abused clear.

But then as a response you got told by our representative what the council of Zoners would and wouldn't accept, about in the same tone as your list of demands was written...

I expected negotiating. I didn't get any.

You yourself argued that diplomacy is about reaching a common middle-ground.

As I see it, all that happened so far was that both sides made clear their initial stance, with the only thing worth talking about were your concerns about the NFZ abuse... something that concerns the Council of Zoners aswell.

Instead on working on that point - i.e. to work on a revision that addresses that abuse - you choose to unilaterally declare the NFZ something you'd never accept - with it being about the one thing the CoZ certainly cannot make exceptions for - call us hypocrites and constantly refer to...

I believe that we are being punished because we were told, ooRP by the admins, to compromise in our RP. The Zoners were told to compromise too in the same notice. We did compromise, much more than I would have liked to. The Zoners did not, but have not been forced to by the admins, in spite of being told to.

... which I find very amusing, considering the 'only' real compromise the QCP would have had to agree to was to adhere to the NFZ.


Now that this is out of the way... I agree with Jinx on the one condition that is required to get official: "to be beneficial for the server community and the overall gameplay"

• I like the idea behind the Privateer ID, as it is a logical step to sabotage an enemies countries economy.
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• I don't mind either to get stopped by a privateer in Kusari or Tau space and getting asked a few questions on where to the cargo I carry goes to... maybe even have an involuntary escort asking for a small fee, or getting plain hijacked to a bretonian base where the cargo can be sold for a profit.
  
  This adds RP and excitement... will we get through Kusari space when hijacked, or will the KNF show up?, etc.
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• What I don't get is your current attitude to declare any non-Kusari ship (and especially Zoner ships) transporting goods through Kusari space to be plain and simple a kill-on-sight target... regardless of where the cargo is going to.
  
  There are more than enough Liberty and even Rheinland factions dealing with Kusari to make this stance utterly unbelievable, as you'd have to attack those factions wherever you'd meet them aswell, resulting in pretty unfavourable diplomatic fall-out for 'your country'.
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• This leads us to your 'excuse' to still use the Privateer ID and the BAF IFF for your ships:
  
  Officially:
  QCP are renegades in exile over which the crown has no more control.
  
  Unofficially:
  None believes the Official Excuse... as you still use (old) BAF ships (regardless of them needing spare parts from BAF suppliers) and equipment, along with an ID and IFF that would imply you working for the Bretonian government and answering to it.
  

Mostly the last point is something I consider to be in contradiction "to be beneficial for the server community and the overall gameplay", as you took the Privateer ID and the starting RP for them being a wing of the BAF and turned them into a "free-for-shooting-up-whatever-I-like" and justified that by your RP.


Now is QCP still about being Privateers?
Is this still within the reason the Privateer ID was created for?

Or is it about being able to blow up "bretonians favourite enemy of the month" while conveniently you're the one defining who that is?

By your 'logic' in picking targets, you should sabotage tradelanes and jumpgates in Kusari to cripple their economy... while blowing up Ageira for supporting them with repair-crews to fix those.


From my point of view, the QCP should use neither the BAF IFF nor the Privateer ID:

• You do not answer to the Crown anymore, so getting new and valid BAF IFF's is very questionable.
  
• Being exiled and denounced as comming pirates, you no longer have valid letters of marquise needed to call yourself privateers. Hence the use of the Privateer ID makes no sense.
  

As your faction is very small and declared to be pirates, why not actually take that step?

Get a Freelancer IFF along with a Pirate ID and leave the BAF IFF + Privateer ID to those actually following the crowns orders.