Queen Carina's Privateers

[Andrew_Bonesovich]

Yes, you made ridiculous demands... so ridiculous that you knew that not a single one - apart from not using blanket bounties - would be accepted as is, which is not even worth being considered a way to start negotiations.

Given, if all that nonsense about the QCP talking for other factions is cut out, in the end it all revolves around the NFZ, and you made your concerns about it being abused clear.

As I see it, all that happened so far was that both sides made clear their initial stance, with the only thing worth talking about were your concerns about the NFZ abuse... something that concerns the Council of Zoners aswell.

Instead on working on that point - i.e. to work on a revision that addresses that abuse - you choose to unilaterally declare the NFZ something you'd never accept - with it being about the one thing the CoZ certainly cannot make exceptions for - call us hypocrites and constantly refer to...
... which I find very amusing, considering the 'only' real compromise the QCP would have had to agree to was to adhere to the NFZ.

First off all, negotiations usually go that way. Both sides make ridiculous demands and then reach compromise. Only thing QCP insisted on was the NFZ part, but seriously, why is it -that- important? What would you lose? The NFZs in house space, or very close to it, are complete nonsense. Houses dont have to care about them, it doesnt benefit them in any way. House militaries dont use them, only pirates and bounty hunters do use Freeports frequently.

Please, just dont start that BS about rolling in with your lolcaps. As said before many times, Zoners arent trained nor able to wage a war on a house.

Now that this is out of the way... I agree with Jinx on the one condition that is required to get official: "to be beneficial for the server community and the overall gameplay"

Everyone has a different view point on what is beneficial. Privateers have great RP possibilites, believe it or not.

I like the idea behind the Privateer ID, as it is a logical step to sabotage an enemies countries economy.
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I don't mind either to get stopped by a privateer in Kusari or Tau space and getting asked a few questions on where to the cargo I carry goes to... maybe even have an involuntary escort asking for a small fee, or getting plain hijacked to a bretonian base where the cargo can be sold for a profit.

This adds RP and excitement... will we get through Kusari space when hijacked, or will the KNF show up?, etc.
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What I don't get is your current attitude to declare any non-Kusari ship (and especially Zoner ships) transporting goods through Kusari space to be plain and simple a kill-on-sight target... regardless of where the cargo is going to.

There are more than enough Liberty and even Rheinland factions dealing with Kusari to make this stance utterly unbelievable, as you'd have to attack those factions wherever you'd meet them aswell, resulting in pretty unfavourable diplomatic fall-out for 'your country'.

We actually pirate Liberty and Rheinland transports when theyre in Kusari. Anything that enters Kusari gets our attention. That was the reason why Bretonian government exiled us, because QCP were overreacting, they distanced from their actions.

In short, Privateers are paranoid patriotic lot, and dont believe anyone who enters Kusari. When you deal with Corsairs, Bretonia's second greatest enemy, we believe you even less.

This leads us to your 'excuse' to still use the Privateer ID and the BAF IFF for your ships:

Officially:
QCP are renegades in exile over which the crown has no more control.

Unofficially:
None believes the Official Excuse... as you still use (old) BAF ships (regardless of them needing spare parts from BAF suppliers) and equipment, along with an ID and IFF that would imply you working for the Bretonian government and answering to it.

We use them because we were supported by Bretonia before. Regarding the spare parts, I have one word for you:

Junkers

The ID doesnt state that we are working for Bretonian government. The fact its called "Bretonian Privateer ID" just means we are Bretonian origin, not supported by them. The BAF Guard IFF is somewhat inconvenient sometimes, but it reflects our diplomacy well enough and makes us look red to most factions (if you are not doing missions for BAF on purpose to get trough guard system)

Mostly the last point is something I consider to be in contradiction "to be beneficial for the server community and the overall gameplay", as you took the Privateer ID and the starting RP for them being a wing of the BAF and turned them into a "free-for-shooting-up-whatever-I-like" and justified that by your RP.
Now is QCP still about being Privateers?
Is this still within the reason the Privateer ID was created for?

Or is it about being able to blow up "bretonians favourite enemy of the month" while conveniently you're the one defining who that is?

By your 'logic' in picking targets, you should sabotage tradelanes and jumpgates in Kusari to cripple their economy... while blowing up Ageira for supporting them with repair-crews to fix those.[/color]
From my point of view, the QCP should use neither the BAF IFF nor the Privateer ID:

• You do not answer to the Crown anymore, so getting new and valid BAF IFF's is very questionable.
  
• Being exiled and denounced as comming pirates, you no longer have valid letters of marquise needed to call yourself privateers. Hence the use of the Privateer ID makes no sense.
  

As your faction is very small and declared to be pirates, why not actually take that step?

Get a Freelancer IFF along with a Pirate ID and leave the BAF IFF + Privateer ID to those actually following the crowns orders.

Most of this was answered above. But, we dont shoot anyone who we decide to shoot. Yes, as you said, we justify it with our RP. Just as everyone else is justifying his actions with RP. If we have a RP reason to shoot someone, we do it. We have definitely a reason to shoot Corsairs. Corsairs hide on planet mostly owned by Zoners. They hide in NFZs. We have no benefit from your no fire zones, so we ignore them. Simple as that.

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