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Making Rheinland more attractive
Offline Jinx
09-19-2009, 09:41 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-19-2009, 09:46 PM by Jinx.)
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as you observed - the grain of activity is traders. - traders go NOT only where the money is - but where the money is in relation to the efford needed.

right now - there are many traders in the edgeworld ( zoners ). that doesn t mean they are doing ooRP stuff, the very contrary even - but the edgeworlds are "draining" activity from the core.

now - you may say "but liberty is full of players" - yes, but thats not the players that populate the core systems. - liberty is full of mostly new players or players that still need time to get used to the whole mod. - many players that feel "safer" pick the edgeworlds over houses.

why is that so?

for one - there is a thicket of playerrules. - players have trouble knowing who is with who, who is my enemy, who is neutral to me, who is my friend? - what is contraband? where does what ZoI start and end?

and to complicate matters - travelling by tradelane and jumpgates is ( sadly ) more complicated than travelling via long cruise distances and jumpholes.


the tradebalance made it so that cooperation traders were the new pinacle of traders over independent traders. - but self restrictions, restrictions and rules made it hard. - not particularly hard per se - but harder than a zoner trader in the edgeworlds.

things are easier there - clearer, more transparent. you don t make more profit there - but you sure don t need to read up dozens of pages of legal codexes or other rules. and you re not caught in muliple pirate clans that have a much easier life at lanes. - you rae never confronted by zealous police ships that think they need someone to boss around.

all in all - the edgeworlds drain your activity - and the reason is - its simply easier there.





its hard to get a balance. - in order to get traders, you must offer them something they don t have in other places. - but the idea is not only to get traders - but also pirates - which is again ... contra-productive to being attractive to traders. - unless you offer a flawless police. - all in all, its rathe complex.

many traders ( in 4.84 ) felt at least as much harrassed by some police / military as they were harrassed by pirates. - yet - the routes in the core were ... all in all ... shorter and easier than the edgeworld routes. ( diamonds / niobium is a bad - but also a good example )

truth is - if you consider trading "money making" and not really "roleplaying" - the edgeworlds are better suited. - you jump in, press the autopilot and get a coffee. - chances that you re intercepted in open space are tiny ( compared to be pirated at crossroads of tradelanes ) - you also have less NPCs annoying you ( since even friendly NPCs shoot down a lane and make delay you in the MOST annoying way )

all that boils down to is not that the edgeworlds need a nerf - but that the core needs something to be more attractive to traders. - that can be quite a lot. - from safer lanes to more profit, better or shorter routes, safer "checkpoints" where traders can run to when chased by pirates ( like stationary cruisers ). etc.

the only advantage in the core is that - IF a trader is confronted by a pirate - he can usually make it to the next station to dock to safety. - in the edgeworlds in the big wide nothing, - a pirate has an advantage ... IF he can catch you in the first place ( which again is easier in the core )

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Making Rheinland more attractive - by Malexa - 09-19-2009, 09:31 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Jinx - 09-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by darthbeck - 09-19-2009, 09:55 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Weedalot - 09-19-2009, 10:06 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by n1kodemus - 09-19-2009, 10:13 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Benjamin - 09-19-2009, 10:14 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Malexa - 09-19-2009, 10:20 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Xareck - 09-19-2009, 10:33 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Wuselkobold - 09-19-2009, 10:49 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by NerdRage - 09-19-2009, 11:16 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by BaconSoda - 09-20-2009, 12:42 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Malexa - 09-20-2009, 12:58 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by blubba - 09-20-2009, 01:37 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Elsdragon - 09-20-2009, 01:57 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 09-20-2009, 01:59 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Sprolf - 09-20-2009, 02:12 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Shaka - 09-20-2009, 02:12 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Marcus Lindberg - 09-20-2009, 03:56 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by n00bl3t - 09-20-2009, 04:16 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Lucend - 09-20-2009, 04:45 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by ProwlerPC - 09-20-2009, 05:09 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Darkavatar - 09-20-2009, 05:23 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-20-2009, 08:20 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Belco - 09-20-2009, 08:40 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by William Frederick Cody - 09-20-2009, 09:41 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-20-2009, 09:56 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Athenian - 09-20-2009, 10:41 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Jinx - 09-20-2009, 10:56 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Friday - 09-20-2009, 11:09 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Dashiell - 09-20-2009, 11:58 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Friday - 09-20-2009, 12:19 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Darkavatar - 09-20-2009, 12:22 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Friday - 09-20-2009, 12:27 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Markam - 09-20-2009, 01:03 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Friday - 09-20-2009, 01:26 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Exsiled_one - 09-20-2009, 04:51 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Colonel.Tigh - 09-20-2009, 05:28 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by MB52 - 09-20-2009, 06:08 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Agmen of Eladesor - 09-20-2009, 06:15 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Malexa - 09-20-2009, 10:16 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Corsair - 09-20-2009, 10:59 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Shagohad - 09-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-21-2009, 04:33 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Elsdragon - 09-21-2009, 04:43 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by reavengitair - 09-21-2009, 04:43 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-21-2009, 04:48 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by atlantis2112 - 09-21-2009, 04:56 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by reavengitair - 09-21-2009, 04:59 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-21-2009, 05:04 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by reavengitair - 09-21-2009, 05:10 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Friday - 09-21-2009, 07:22 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by MB52 - 09-21-2009, 07:24 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-21-2009, 07:47 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by looqas - 09-21-2009, 09:11 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Dashiell - 09-21-2009, 09:43 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by n00bl3t - 09-21-2009, 09:53 AM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Malexa - 09-21-2009, 01:47 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Grimly - 09-21-2009, 01:58 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Sprolf - 09-21-2009, 02:26 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-21-2009, 02:29 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Sprolf - 09-21-2009, 02:30 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Malexa - 09-21-2009, 03:24 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Sprolf - 09-21-2009, 03:28 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Stefan - 09-21-2009, 05:44 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by AJBeast - 09-21-2009, 05:56 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by n1kodemus - 09-21-2009, 06:28 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by kikatsu - 09-21-2009, 06:33 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-21-2009, 06:33 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by kikatsu - 09-21-2009, 06:44 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by AJBeast - 09-21-2009, 06:44 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Cyberanson - 09-21-2009, 06:56 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by kikatsu - 09-21-2009, 07:09 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by Benjamin - 09-21-2009, 07:13 PM
Making Rheinland more attractive - by looqas - 09-23-2009, 01:32 PM

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