Rheinland Taxation Feedback and Discussion

[Malexa]

Does this mean that when im carrying engine components to southampton on my Bowex shire that i will get -pirated- by the RM?

If thats a yes, then i think you are going to loose more than you gain from this.

If you want people in rheianland companies, this is the WRONG way to go about it, all you will end up with is an area more deserted than kusari simply because the base of all RP are traders, and you will see nothing but the odd cardi-slaves smuggler if you inact this.

Yes, In a way.

I even will get Taxed dragging My lux foods away from stuttgart.

The difference should be clear by now. Lots of good explanations what it is and what it is not.

I think this is going to backfire epically...

powertraders will just run like hell, so no rp there

a lot of traders will just avoid Rheinland altogheter now. first you wade trough pirates to try and avoid losing money, then the RM "pirates" you 200m from your destination? with tax amounts that some pirates won`t even ask for?

this si going to result in silly cat and mouse games between (factionised) traders and the RM.

I`m all for making Rheinland more busy and popultaed. but I feel that this is not the way to do it.

if I come in with my Bowex, from bretonia, I lose money in O3 if I`m unlucky enough to meet some (lol)pirates. then the RM taxes me for delivering goods. then i have to pay to haul cargo out again. then I get pirated in O7 or 3 again wiith some lousy luck.

I`m no powertrader. but that doesn`t really sound appealing at all..

We are keeping Omega 7 pirate free as good as possible and also patrol there frequently.
I am currently thinking of an advanced treatment with the BAF, so both sides can wander into Omega 7 and Omega 3, to keep it clear. (no pirate hiding there anymore)

Like I always say, the lawfuls are worse than the pirates when it comes to pissing you off, ripping you off, and taking your money -_-

Is this honestly needed? What, do the RM not want to trade like everyone else to fund their ships? I really dont mean to flame here, but honestly, this is ridiculous.

Agreed with the others, you're trying to bring more activity into rheinland, but the actions you're taking to that end are going to cause the opposite.

Ripping you off would mean we would have to charge 1 million, so your losses are really high.
How many traderoutes do you take where it will be charged by 200.000 ?
Usualy you may loose 100.000 or 150.000.
If you really are upset due to this and this is a reason not to come to Rheinland anymore, then I think the hope for the trade is lost.

I'm gonna toss an opinion in here too.

Now, it makes perfect sense to enforce the embargo and to prevent goods being shipped to Liberty from Rheinland. But if a indie trader risks his neck passing the Liberty blockade to Rheinland, that's practically helping Rheinland's war effort with goods. I cannot see a reason for why he should be taxed. Does not really make sense to me. Same goes for all the other borders. Incoming trade should be welcomed, you can very well tax the exports to other Houses, having the RP excuse that said goods may be needed for the war (i.e ore, electronics, shipbuilding stuff)

Those are my 0.02 credits

This my friend, is a brilliant idea. Only levy taxes for outgoing goods. I may consider this and put in some thoughts.


Jinx also posted a verry good summary what it should be and what we have to avoid.

The idea behind this is to provide more roleplay, give the traders a chat and yes, even escorts.
Someone also mentioned that it is more the RFP work and yes, I fully support that it is mainly the work of the RFP.
This could also revitalize the RFP faction.
Our current status is, that the Military is taking the police work. Otherwise it wont work. We have to.

I want to come back to the "good tone" again.
Ventana already said, that our boys must be polite and dont treat the traders like smugglers or unlawfulls.
They dont need a CD, they can just fly alongside them and that even gives them a security feeling.
Talking to them and explaining them why the tax is needed.

If people want to run or shoot for 100.000 to a max of 200.000 credits, then they should be free to do it.
We wont tax a player when he crosses our path on his way in and then again on his path out.
It is beeing decided by the ranking officer, if there is time for the taxation or not.

It is not even in place the first day and I see people complaining about missing 200.000 Credits in a 45 minute run for 15-19 million credits.
If pirates are really this big problem, tell me where they sit at the rheinland borders.
If it is only O3, then I am sure we can do something with the BAF to keep it clear as well.

Give the new taxing system a chance. Look at it and help to develop it, so we can adjust it to make the most sense.
We will see if the lolwuts and silent traders are the real problem, or the people who think a taxationsystem is not worth to roleplay and the try.

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