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Offline Jihadjoe
10-05-2009, 04:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-05-2009, 04:27 PM by Jihadjoe.)
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' Wrote:Have you ever considered.. maybe that wasn't the point of this change? Could it be possible that the developers are going somewhere with this other than what you want to see?

That might well be true, however having been party to at least some of the balance talks, I have at least some idea of the general intention of the balance team.

' Wrote:That's okay. You already had to be relatively close to SNAC Gunboats any way, never made a difference. Most Gunboat pilots are noobs who think they're flying a fighter with bigger guns any way. I'll just continue shooting at Gunboats while they're trying to turn to face me.

While it may be true that you have to be close to hit with a supernova, due to the nature of the gun (one hit does a lot of damage, long recharge time) you don't have to stay close in order to make it effective. You dive in for one shot, then move away again, keeping yourself out the way of the gunboat's guns.

The new bomber guns require you to stay at close range in order to do damage to a gunboat's shield. This is not a good thing to do, as it means you are opening yourself to get chewed up by the gunboat, or instakilled with razors.


' Wrote:I would have said it was tipped in the Bombers favour before... Only Gunboat I've ever died to in 4.85 was a haxed Kusari Explorer with Eagle turning. Then again.. most gunboat pilots are complete idiots who think dual missiles are still worth a damn.

Heh. I remember that KE. Was interesting to fight for sure. Killed my Xeno eagle too.

' Wrote:There is no balance between bombers and heavy capital ships. Bombers destroy capital ships, that is their role. Is a saw mill unbalanced for cutting through logs with no resistance? Cause that's a good metaphor for bombers. I motion we move to attach giant saws to the front of all bombers for 4.86.

I love the idea of having a massive saw attached to the front of my bomber. I'd love one for 4.86, but this may just be because I spent yesterday sorting out a fallen tree at my house, which gave me an excuse to get the chainsaw out.

On a more serious note, Cap ships should be able to survive bomber attacks by the virtue of having interceptor escorts. Fighters, escorting a battleship or cruiser and preventing bombers from killing it. This promotes teamwork. As it stood in the last version, bombers were able to kill a heavy cap long before the fighters could kill the bombers. Sure, the bombers would all die afterwards while fighting the escort fighters, but the purpose of the escort is lost by the inevitable destruction of the cap they are supposedly protecting.

This was the problem with the last version, and now bombers are even more effective against heavy caps, meaning this has been even further buried.

' Wrote:Get Gunboat Escorts, noob!

Discovery Gunboatlancer Reunion!

In order to demonstrate the way I think we should see combat ships being flown (in terms of numbers), I shall use text size.

Battleships
Cruisers
Gunboats
Bombers
Fighters

Kinda, pyramid like.

My prediction with the new bomber balance is we will see the following.

Battleships
Cruisers
Gunboats
Bombers
Fighters


Just my opinion however.

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bomber balance - by X-Lancer - 10-05-2009, 04:32 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-05-2009, 04:36 AM
bomber balance - by kindred - 10-05-2009, 04:39 AM
bomber balance - by Durandal - 10-05-2009, 04:40 AM
bomber balance - by Boss - 10-05-2009, 04:40 AM
bomber balance - by kindred - 10-05-2009, 04:41 AM
bomber balance - by Boss - 10-05-2009, 04:43 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-05-2009, 04:43 AM
bomber balance - by casero - 10-05-2009, 04:44 AM
bomber balance - by Boss - 10-05-2009, 04:46 AM
bomber balance - by Patrician - 10-05-2009, 04:46 AM
bomber balance - by Dieter Schprokets - 10-05-2009, 04:47 AM
bomber balance - by Friday - 10-05-2009, 05:15 AM
bomber balance - by Lunaphase - 10-05-2009, 05:25 AM
bomber balance - by Zero755 - 10-05-2009, 05:31 AM
bomber balance - by Lunaphase - 10-05-2009, 05:42 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 06:21 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-05-2009, 06:31 AM
bomber balance - by Friday - 10-05-2009, 06:37 AM
bomber balance - by Pingu! - 10-05-2009, 06:55 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-05-2009, 06:56 AM
bomber balance - by Birdtalon - 10-05-2009, 07:02 AM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-05-2009, 07:34 AM
bomber balance - by Birdtalon - 10-05-2009, 07:37 AM
bomber balance - by Tenacity - 10-05-2009, 07:39 AM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-05-2009, 07:49 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-05-2009, 07:57 AM
bomber balance - by Durandal - 10-05-2009, 11:32 AM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 12:04 PM
bomber balance - by Dra1003 - 10-05-2009, 12:05 PM
bomber balance - by Zero755 - 10-05-2009, 01:02 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 01:22 PM
bomber balance - by Durandal - 10-05-2009, 01:25 PM
bomber balance - by Tommeh - 10-05-2009, 01:27 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 01:34 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-05-2009, 01:35 PM
bomber balance - by Tommeh - 10-05-2009, 01:45 PM
bomber balance - by Zero755 - 10-05-2009, 01:49 PM
bomber balance - by Jordi - 10-05-2009, 02:05 PM
bomber balance - by Aduka - 10-05-2009, 02:16 PM
bomber balance - by Hawk - 10-05-2009, 02:18 PM
bomber balance - by ProwlerPC - 10-05-2009, 02:21 PM
bomber balance - by Dashiell - 10-05-2009, 02:28 PM
bomber balance - by Jinx - 10-05-2009, 02:36 PM
bomber balance - by Aduka - 10-05-2009, 02:37 PM
bomber balance - by Tovig - 10-05-2009, 02:37 PM
bomber balance - by Har3 - 10-05-2009, 02:39 PM
bomber balance - by ProwlerPC - 10-05-2009, 02:39 PM
bomber balance - by Pingu! - 10-05-2009, 02:42 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 02:42 PM
bomber balance - by Jonathan_Archer_nx01 - 10-05-2009, 02:48 PM
bomber balance - by pruskis92 - 10-05-2009, 02:52 PM
bomber balance - by ... kur nubėgo? - 10-05-2009, 03:02 PM
bomber balance - by Radic - 10-05-2009, 03:06 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 04:04 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-05-2009, 04:29 PM
bomber balance - by ProwlerPC - 10-05-2009, 04:42 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 05:10 PM
bomber balance - by ... kur nubėgo? - 10-05-2009, 05:11 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 05:17 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 07:18 PM
bomber balance - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 10-05-2009, 07:58 PM
bomber balance - by Rudo - 10-05-2009, 08:02 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-05-2009, 08:25 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-06-2009, 07:08 AM
bomber balance - by Jonathan_Archer_nx01 - 10-06-2009, 07:20 AM
bomber balance - by Varyag - 10-06-2009, 07:57 PM
bomber balance - by NonSequitor - 10-06-2009, 08:22 PM
bomber balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-06-2009, 08:27 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-06-2009, 08:29 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-06-2009, 08:30 PM
bomber balance - by Grimly - 10-06-2009, 08:30 PM
bomber balance - by Varyag - 10-06-2009, 11:31 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-06-2009, 11:43 PM
bomber balance - by Benjamin - 10-06-2009, 11:46 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-06-2009, 11:52 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-07-2009, 09:53 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-07-2009, 11:19 AM
bomber balance - by Implosion - 10-08-2009, 04:57 PM
bomber balance - by Navycross28 - 10-08-2009, 05:29 PM
bomber balance - by Loop - 10-08-2009, 05:29 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-08-2009, 05:34 PM
bomber balance - by Loop - 10-08-2009, 05:41 PM
bomber balance - by Implosion - 10-08-2009, 05:43 PM
bomber balance - by alpha3 - 10-08-2009, 05:48 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-09-2009, 02:07 AM
bomber balance - by alpha3 - 10-09-2009, 01:25 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 01:39 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-09-2009, 01:47 PM
bomber balance - by notequinoxe - 10-09-2009, 01:50 PM
bomber balance - by frozen - 10-09-2009, 01:52 PM
bomber balance - by Denelo - 10-09-2009, 01:54 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 01:55 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-09-2009, 01:55 PM
bomber balance - by frozen - 10-09-2009, 01:57 PM
bomber balance - by arvg - 10-09-2009, 02:03 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 02:06 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-09-2009, 02:07 PM
bomber balance - by Colonel.Tigh - 10-09-2009, 02:17 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 02:17 PM
bomber balance - by notequinoxe - 10-09-2009, 02:24 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 02:30 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 02:40 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 02:50 PM
bomber balance - by Othman - 10-09-2009, 02:51 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 03:00 PM
bomber balance - by Implosion - 10-09-2009, 06:03 PM
bomber balance - by alpha3 - 10-09-2009, 06:23 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 06:31 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-09-2009, 11:23 PM
bomber balance - by schlurbi - 10-09-2009, 11:32 PM
bomber balance - by frozen - 10-10-2009, 01:43 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-10-2009, 02:02 AM
bomber balance - by Canadianguy - 10-10-2009, 02:13 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-10-2009, 02:20 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-10-2009, 02:41 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-10-2009, 02:43 AM
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bomber balance - by Guest - 10-10-2009, 06:42 PM
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bomber balance - by DAnvilFan - 10-10-2009, 08:04 PM
bomber balance - by GHOSTbielars - 10-10-2009, 11:48 PM
bomber balance - by Tovig - 10-11-2009, 12:35 AM
bomber balance - by reavengitair - 10-11-2009, 01:47 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 01:50 AM
bomber balance - by Corsair - 10-11-2009, 02:06 AM
bomber balance - by Friday - 10-11-2009, 02:07 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-11-2009, 06:12 AM
bomber balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-11-2009, 06:56 AM
bomber balance - by n00bl3t - 10-11-2009, 07:05 AM
bomber balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-11-2009, 07:07 AM
bomber balance - by n00bl3t - 10-11-2009, 07:14 AM
bomber balance - by GHOSTbielars - 10-11-2009, 09:36 PM
bomber balance - by Corsair - 10-11-2009, 09:41 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 09:44 PM
bomber balance - by schlurbi - 10-11-2009, 09:51 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 09:57 PM
bomber balance - by GHOSTbielars - 10-11-2009, 10:44 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-11-2009, 10:46 PM
bomber balance - by Corsair - 10-11-2009, 10:51 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 11:05 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-13-2009, 10:03 AM
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