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Jihadjoe

10-09-2009, 02:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-09-2009, 03:01 PM by Jihadjoe.)

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' Wrote:What's keeping you from using just SN now?
Honestly on all my bombers bare OC Falcata and Corsair Praetorian, I ever since 4.83 only use SN, even against shield. Only time where it actually makes sense to use guns is in 1vs1, but in that fight GB has a build-in advantage and should win, just like fighter vs bomber.. or cruiser vs gb. Else even in group fights it's much safer to stay at range as you say and just move in to fire sns. With at least 2 bombers around it's not so big problem for 1 bomber to just drop shield and the other one hit hull.

That is true. The advantage gunboats had against bombers in the last update was enough. It was very hard work to solo a gunboat in a heavy bomber (the kaichou or praetorian for example, both of which I fly) and near impossible in a lighter bomber without an inferno, (upholder or broadsword, both of which are supernova magnets by the way, due to the shape and length, but that's another matter).

I find the advantage gunboats currently have to be too much. This isn't some in built anti-gunboat bias talking, I love flying my gunboats, of which I own two (OC GB and Lib GB). Currently a roc, upholder or broadsword will not be able to solo a rookie gunboat pilot due to not being able to hit from 300m range with shieldbusters.

The rather odd thing, was with the current bomber guns I was nearly (I say nearly because a VHF dropped by and gave me some more bots and batts late in the fight) able to solo an OC dessie in my upholder. I emptied a powerplant full of those shieldbusters and nearly saw the light of heaven. I laughed so hard as the dessie yelled "WTF?!" in system chat, then just waited for my plant to regen and started dropping supernovas.

That seems like something of an issue to me. I'm no great bomber pilot by any means. I'm far more suited to VHF flying.

If I am alone and have a greater fear of gunboats than cruisers, I think we need to redress the issue a touch. A bomber should not be able to solo a cruiser at all, whereas it should be able to solo a gunboat if well flown.

' Wrote:Wouldn't that take us closer to the status quo of the past version. Or downright there?

It would still prevent the use of missiles.

Also 450m/s speed with 4.00 refire would make fighters hard to hit, or 500m/s speed with 2.00 or event 1.00 refire would make fighters harder to hit while making gunboats an easier target.

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bomber balance - by X-Lancer - 10-05-2009, 04:32 AM

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