Should factions receive money from the admins?

[eyvind]

It's also oorp to receive money from oorp entities. ...Factions shouldn't survive by charity. If a faction looses the ability to support itself by its own members then it needs to wither & die. something will replace it in time

If this was put into effect, it would hardly be explained by Admins giving factions money. It would be explained in a way that makes quite a bit of sense, in my opinion.

Militaries get funded by their House. The House is funded by a plethora of things, such as taxes. These taxes, for example, don't exist in the game and hence the basis for the entire financial foundation of multiple factions disappears. On the other hand, many of the expenses of most factions don't exist in the game either. In my opinion, this exhibits a balance. A balance that has been more or less kept by the ingenuity of players in bending the original circumstance of their factions. Military factions now have general traders, for example.

Another example would be corporations, such as Ageira. Ageira doesn't get much of their funds from moving cargo containers around. They get their funds from the government as well as through the Jump Gate and Trade Lane construction projects. Neither source of funding exists in the game. Again, it's a balance. In the case of Ageira, however, it's a balance no one has yet managed to achieve. Over the past year alone more than 3 unofficial Ageira factions have struggled, reached, but eventually fallen for another few dedicated souls to give it a shot.

Most factions have a balance like this. Some have much more trouble maintaining this unnatural balance of funds and some don't. A good example would be Ageira and DSE. DSE capitalizes not only on the Jump Gate and Trade Lane projects, but also on materials export, manufacturing, and so on. The balance for DSE is much easier to sustain and the faction becomes much easier to keep alive. Ageira, as described, has a considerably tougher time.

Militaries are generally popular, get more members, and are not focused on the credit aspects of their existence. They get by with donations from members, members funding themselves, as well as the inevitable grunt work of the leaders. Those factions that aren't as inherently popular but still suffer from this weakness we are discussing are not easy to keep going.

It's not always the fault of the factions, their leaders, or the members. Just because a faction has trouble keeping their credit count up does not mean they deserve to dwindle into nonexistence. Their existence is generally highly beneficial to the community, server, and mod. These factions might be the ones with a more role-playing heavy role in Discovery, without much of a foothold in game mechanics. The development members of these factions produce is valuable to the furthering of Discovery as a whole, perhaps more so than that of the ever-popular militaries and other factions with a much stronger game-play foundation.]


(Since my bias seems to be brought up every time I support these types of initiatives, let me point out that I am directly advocating providing support to factions I have no stake in beyond the same stake all members of this community do.)

Let me also add that I am disappointed in the attitude you are demonstrating in this thread, Marburg. You are obviously strongly opposed to the idea, but if you are truly determined to defend that position perhaps you should discus in a calmer and more constructive tone. Caustic words and sarcastic statements are, in my opinion, not the best way to convey your arguments.

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