To the AU

[Albert Profrock]

Still, taking Texas over isn't part of our goals, not yet. We have better things to do right now, I really don't see how spreading our relatively low number through 3 different systems, that are heavily defended because of the War, is doing us any good. :/

That's all I've had to say.

Taking over Texas? Hardly. And who said so? Do you acknowledge basic trade lane piracy as a take over? Rogues, Xenos, Hackers and Outcasts are all taking over Liberty everyday then. Launching swift forays into house territories is a part of the modern Unioners roles because of the ongoing war. There is no spreading of numbers either at any rate. We prefer to act as a whole most of the times. Besides, one could always set his or her goals independent and indifferent from an official faction. You could always prefer not to enter Liberty space, while the faction wouldnt blame you for that or try to encourage you in the opposite way. In this case, Id expect the same respect against our internal policies from the people unaffliated with our faction.

Well... One of the reasons I ask is that rheinland is somewhat quiet. I've been sat in dresden in a kruger tagged and ID'd mining ship for just a little over an hour now, with nothing happening. I've -never- been pirated in rheinland while on my traders, and I've only been involved in one fight with the Rheinland unlawfuls on my indy RM.

There is loads of trade and potential mining in Rheinland, yet I don't see the pirates to match it.

You were logged in your Kruger just a little over an hour, and because you werent pirated in that relatively short period, you are now blaming an official factions motives to use Texas for piracy as an alternative, which they could fairly do? Were we obliged to coincide with your Kruger such that only then would you be satisfied about the adequecy of the activites of Rheinland pirates? Judging by this, one could well say that he was logged on in some system, and because he sat at one point he couldnt interact with anyone, so he now believes that the entire universe is dead.

Not only does not this marginal inquiry of yours validate that our faction havent been reasonably active in Rheinland in chase of interdicting both corporate and incorporate trade for almost months since we are established, but it only narrates of a lonely, motionless and most probably lazy one hour of yours, independent from the real facts.

As a matter of fact, there arent loads of trade in Rheinland mainly because of the Liberty-Rheinland war and the blockade that is still in effect. People mostly prefer the Kusari-Bretonia trade to the Liberty-Rheinland trade due to the passage between Kusari and Bretonia being expandable and easier, having alternative routes between the two houses, as opposed to how Liberty and Rheinland are connected to each other with only two systems, each linked with Hamburg, where lots of naval action and chaos is focused rather than being scattered in a wider zone. Because of this and the sigma and omega systems being more restricted and not viable for our purposes, we are one of the factions least likely to find proper targets for piracy. This is quite a valid ground and reason for Unioners to operate in Texas and even in other areas of Liberty in order to expand their chances for credits robbery and cargo extortion during times its tough to operate in Rheinland. I personally wouldnt expect them to be so fairplayers either, as they are desperately looking for resources and ways to stay unharmed during the relentless skirmishes ensued so close to them.

Mining potential? We aint miners mate, we are bloody pirates. We dont mine, we plunder, we maraud, we steal, we raid... Mining falls in Krugers department, you should have a look at it with your Kruger.

The AU are hardly pushing forward their own goals by pirating texas with -anyone-, let alone on their own.

AU, as an official faction, try to push forward its own goals in Rheinland as best as it could. However, todays modern conjecture necessitates our factions regardless of the affliation advancing into Liberty as well in order to hit its trade and hurt its economy as much needed as in Rheinland. Only then could we ensure that we afflict both participants of the war as we are supposed to do.

To top it off, Liberty already has approximately 928364897256342 unlawful groups knocking about. I don't see any reason for a group of Rheinland pirates to add themselves to the list.

To top it on, Liberty could have 928364897256342 to the power of 928364897256342 unlawful groups for all I care. Not you and not even your grandfather could dictate where my factions interests would be. Besides, its perfectly legitimate for Unioners to be in Texas for mainly two good reasons.

1) Hitting trade in Liberty, while operating in Rheinland is either more dangerous or less time efficient, productive and profitable.
2) Assembling assault groups in order to raid both corporate and naval entities of Liberty, more preferably as hit and run attacks.

Proflock, while the Unioners are based in the borderworlds, so are the xenos generally. They have two bases in the borderworlds (Nome in Kepler and Barrow in Hudson), yet they concentrate purely on Liberty, and the borderworlds.

Where Xenos prefer to concentrate is none of my factions concern, except Hudson. We are truly concerned with their existence there and have been battling in turf wars to remove them from Hudson for once and all.

The Unioners are a similarly motivated group politically. What are they going to change about Rheinland by pirating texas?

Unioners are far away from being politically motivated, however the AU is. You should examine the Bundschuh for that matter. And they arent going to change anything related with their Rheinland affairs by participating in malevolent acts in Texas but their affairs related with Liberty as explained above.

Also, Grail, that's almost as bad as a Corsair halting people for 'donations' in Alaska. You're supposed to cripple Rheinland, not Liberty. It derails from your purpose. Not to mention getting in Xeno/Outcast/Lane Hacker territory. Those folks hate rheinlanders with a passion.

Xenos do naturally hate Unioners. Does it stop Unioners to operate in the same system with them such as Hudson? They could well fight in Texas similarly. Moreover, there is no clue anywhere as to how and why Outcasts hate Unioners, who have been staying neutral in the hispanic conflict since they abandoned their old alliance with Corsairs. Then again, official factions could always set different policies and execute them but from what I have seen, and if you look at our message dump including the recent diplomatical transmissions, the Outcast leadership have ordered the ESS to move out of Bering and not to engage Unioners for one, while as an official faction Im yet to see any of us clashing with Outcasts in any instance. Liberty isnt an Outcast territory either, it would be wrong to make such a description. They do base there though and exist there such as Xenos, Rogues and Hackers. Outcast territory would be Omicron Alpha and some other adjacent sectors harboring their bases and core traffic. While we are discussing official faction preferences here, Id also like to note that Alster Union and Hellfire Legion have partcipated in many joint operations against the navy and police in Texas in a recent interval of time. Another reference could be found here - in our mesage dump # post 14 -, where we had a joint espionage event with a couple of independent Hackers, those who are or were actually known to have ties with the official faction LH aka Lane Hackers.

It doesnt derail from our purpose, instead, it adds to our purpose, widens it. Feel free to re-read the above.

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