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Offline Dab
04-06-2007, 03:56 PM,
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Nadir, you say your not encouraging people to come after you in BSs, but thats exactly what the KNF is doing. Every time fighters show up you don't go hop in your own to duel. More than half your members traded in their only fighters for gunboats, and then put as many missiles on them as could be. True, your changing your ships to deal with what you face more often, but when you go to the extent where your using ships and equipment that DO need balanced (Miner with GB weaps in Honshu anyone?) than thats what is making people mad. Misfit is using 5 missile turrets and simply spamming fighters non stop 'just because he can.'

This isn't about losing, but about people abusing things that need balanced. You know when the Viper became near-invincible, people started using it because they KNEW it was half-impossible to kill without spamming torpedoes. Then there were the other players who (some even had the ship) refused to fly them until the version came out to fix them. These players were not mad about losing. They were made that a bunch of noobs just went out and grabbed the best and buggiest fighter they could because they knew they would win almost any fight against another fighter.

Thats the problem with spamming with 5 missile turrets. You don't want to encourage them from bringing battleships, but spamming missiles IS going to do that. I planned to make a Blood Dragon fighter so I wouldn't always have to use my cruiser, except against cruisers. Now I HAVE to use that cruiser whenever I enter Kusari because all I expect is being spammed. Its ruining the game for everyone. Adjusting your loadout to your enemy is one thing, using an unbalanced one just so you can win is something completely different. It IS unfair and it should be fixed. Not because it beats other loadouts, but because it shouldn't be able to kill a fighter in 5 seconds, gunboat or not. True, a cruiser can hurt the GB more now without getting as much damage, but what cruiser can effectively hit a GB in the first place? My Talarca is a light cruiser, meaning less armor and more agility, and I still have a hard time. If the GB is attacked by a larger ship it can just cut and run until enemy is out of CDs.

This is an uber-loadout used by those interested in just winning, as is the missile spamming 'tactic' and needs to be balanced with everything else in the game. Its still going to be a very effective fighter killer loadout, but it should NOT be this good. Thats all there is to it, and you can either accept it or deny it, its your opinion, but what is a fact is it IS unfair to anyone in a fighter. True, upon seeing a GB a fighter should run or get some backup, but with this missile spamming loadout a fighter is dead upon sight.

If this continues unbalanced (which it won't) fighters, the thing FL was made to use, will be useless and never touched. You'll see capships, capships, and more capships. Then GBs will die off as their are no fighters to use. Then it will either be tons of BSs or BSs and cruisers. Maybe with fighters coming back.

The fact is we don't want cycles, we want everything to be used equally and for everything to be able to survive a fight fairly. Already I've seen the numbers of fighters reduced in such a way its sad because all SF, SA, or KNF does is missile spam. I have a great respect for RM because of the way they fight and not use unbalanced or out-of-RP equipment. The fact that they do not go out in tons of RH GBs and missile spams earns them a great deal of my respect. They have more fighters than anything else, unique among the player house factions. They are not interested in winning so much as they are in having fun and the other players having fun. SA, SF, KNF, you three factions are only interested in winning (or in SA's case, making sure they 'appear' to win no matter the cost, as is obvious from their 'buggy' battle reports.) and that fact becomes evident in the ships your use and/or the equipment and tactics. You aren't interested in other people's fun, but only your own, and more importantly (for you), winning.

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Balance - by Nadir - 04-06-2007, 09:41 AM
Balance - by Igiss - 04-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Balance - by Nadir - 04-06-2007, 10:59 AM
Balance - by Nadir - 04-06-2007, 11:18 AM
Balance - by Nightfall - 04-06-2007, 11:30 AM
Balance - by Nadir - 04-06-2007, 11:56 AM
Balance - by Nightfall - 04-06-2007, 03:00 PM
Balance - by caylith - 04-06-2007, 03:42 PM
Balance - by Dab - 04-06-2007, 03:56 PM
Balance - by Kane - 04-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Balance - by Dab - 04-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Balance - by thekillerppodl - 04-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Balance - by BestFlyerHere - 04-06-2007, 05:58 PM
Balance - by Malaclypse 666 - 04-06-2007, 06:09 PM
Balance - by Spacewolf - 04-06-2007, 06:23 PM
Balance - by Dab - 04-06-2007, 06:29 PM
Balance - by BestFlyerHere - 04-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Balance - by Koolmo - 04-06-2007, 08:52 PM
Balance - by Nightfall - 04-06-2007, 09:42 PM
Balance - by Craines - 04-06-2007, 09:56 PM
Balance - by Nadir - 04-07-2007, 02:37 AM
Balance - by fwolf - 04-07-2007, 02:58 AM
Balance - by Nadir - 04-07-2007, 03:26 AM
Balance - by Yngen - 04-07-2007, 04:16 AM
Balance - by Nadir - 04-07-2007, 06:03 AM

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