Let's talk aliens.

[barrenwzste]

To all;

For those intrested in the questions posed, I have here more supporting evidence, taken from the Nomad Lore Report written by Treewyrm, to support my theories. This will be a long post, as I not only post the excerpts, but rebutt quotes from Sovereign. For those who want it short, I postulate that the Nomads have two main weaknesses and that unpredictable tactics as well as targeting thier biomechanical interfaces is the way to attack them succesfully. The Nomad Lore Report seems to coaberate my theories.

18 years of studying human psychology through their hosts, any and all data that humanity itself has come up with in the past 1000 years, and doing experiments probably gives them at least a good idea of what we think even if they don't fully understand the mechanisms behind it.

Sovereign

The Nomads know this quite well and use those vulnerabilities for their own benefit, they have studied human history from their own unique "perspective" and, as shown, are able to effectively incorporating into it, masking into everyday roles. As a result this differs much from understanding of
independent human groups whichever they may be called.

Discovery Roleplaying Community Nomads Extended Lore (Here after refered to as DRCNEL)

That is exactly what I said. They don't understand us any better than we do them. They can predict what a normal human individual might do, much as we can predict them. However, if we do as I propose and drastically alter our responses each time we encounter them, we can sow confusion, giving us an edge. This can be used both tactically and strategically.

Oh, and I call bulldung on your gravity "example" (even though if it were true it would prove my point rather than yours). Calling something a "theory" has no bearing on the state of its acceptance in scientific knowledge.

Sovereign

Actually, what I said was you can't prove gravity. And I'm right. Here is an excerpt from the link you gave.
Incedentally, it also disproves your quoted statement.

"Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis; you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory. On the other hand, you can disprove a theory by finding even a single observation that disagrees with the predictions of the theory." The "unprovable but falsifiable" nature of theories is a necessary consequence of using inductive logic

Karl Popper, Stephen Hawking, and Wikpedia



[/quote]You also claimed that a given patrol had only one mind, rather than one mind per ship (if you've ever fought the Keepers, that should be perfectly obvious that there's more than one mind).

Soveriegn

Actually what I said was,

And lastly, we know that there are not that many of them. That means that each entity has to controll multiples of ships. Now, say in a given patrol there are ships controlled by multiple entities, then, since there are so few nomads, each entity will control multiple ships, in multiple patrols, making the strain all the greater.

and

Well, each of thier patrols contains multiple ships, but is controlled by only one mind.

meaning one mind per patrol.

Both of my statements can be true, as shown by the following quote from the DRCNEL. Incidentally it also provides supportive evidence that Nomads can control only so many processes at one time and can be overwhelmed.

Nomad entity may have several physical manifestations at the same time, each can be
controlled independently and simultaneously. The amount of these forms is based on
complexity and telepathic power a single entity holds. Normally they have two or three forms,
though only one or two are being active at a given time. Advisors, however, being more
advanced that the rest are capable of single-handedly controlling small and medium-sized
fleets.

DRCNEL

I suppose that if every single Nomad vessel was engaged simultaneously that would cause some issues. Then again, you also mistake the numbers of their ships for the numbers of their consciousnesses- since a consciousness cannot die, and new consciousnesses can be formed, there's no shortage there- not infinite, but a lot. Ships, however, get destroyed. The Nomads do not have a particularly vast supply of ships. That does not mean they do not have enough minds to run them.

Sovereign

This paragraph is wrong on so many levels it's funny, especially coming from a self proffessed expert. First, the nomads have MORE ships than nomad minds, as shown in an afore mentioned quote from the DRCNEL. You also say here that we would have to engage every single vessel to sow confusion, but the DDCNEL puts lie to this as well, stating there are deffinate limits to thier contol and abilities.

Nomad entity may have several physical manifestations at the same time, each can be
controlled independently and simultaneously. The amount of these forms is based on
complexity and telepathic power a single entity holds. Normally they have two or three forms,
though only one or two are being active at a given time. Advisors, however, being more
advanced that the rest are capable of single-handedly controlling small and medium-sized
fleets.

DRCNEL

Certain emotions they have are shared among the rest, when one feels anger all those nearby feel the same.

DRCNEL

Any other Nomad is capable of "looking" through another Nomads' senses and will sometimes advise or gather information at the same time as the "host" Nomad.[quote] DRCNEL


In conclusion, the Discovery Rollplaying Community Nomad Extended Lore supports my theories. Now I leave it up to the rest of the you to decide if, supported or not, they will become part of our rollplaying environment. As for you Soveriegn, keep the personal attacks to yourself, the forums clear of profanity, and amusing us with your ignorance. Not only did you rave at me like a lunatic, almost every statement you made was proven wrong by the very things you tried to prove them with. Please, stick your foot in your mouth more often.

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