Samarran Raiders

[Trail]

Splendid.
Now, in RP, Raiders do not know are your vessels insured or not. What they see is really fancy and big transports, which cost a lot of money. Neither they really care.

Besides, those 50.000 / 100.000 credits a year that you work for is merely an in-RP characteristic. You can't blame us for something that doesn't get along with game mechanics.

Actually I can, icly you do not know how much I have, oocly you still don't know. Trying to figure out how much money my character has through illicit means is metagaming. Since this is a roleplaying game you have to play your own role and accept what the other roleplayer is saying as fact (even though he could be lieing) Game mechanics have no say if someone asks me for 5 mill on an empty hold.

now:
I've seen sanctions for 60 million pirating. Yes, that's pretty bizarre terrorism. But 5 millions is 12 times less. See the difference? (don't forget that you're Samura - a rich company). In any case, you're free to drop us links providing sanctions for pirating 5 million, and where the pirate got punished.

I dont have that kind knowledge since sanctions are private, you only get evidence if you are the accused or the person involved. That said an admin (name escapes me) said that in the thread when they introduced the rule change (capital ships pirating players) that there is a limit people can ask. and that it was 33% of what the cargo can bring in profit. Now I personally didn't even think of that when I got pirated, infact I was told half a day after the fact (not by some newbie either, but by someone who leads a faction and is 2ic in another, and maybe holding higher positions in others but I digress)

Next...
We're known as a group of organized pirates and people who serve Nomads (not important in this case).

We do have our RP story, our RP goals and RP reasons to search for traders and tax them or demand cargo on our way. Tax price of 5 millions is pretty reasonable. Besides, why do you even mention absence of cargo? Have you cargo or not, you have to have some money on your account.

Now, it doesn't needs to be like that. If it was, our RP would not be important and here's why: Raiders seek for riches, Samura pretty sure has lots of money. Hence 5 millions, really!

Samura does, but I am not the one who collects the checks, I play the role of a transporter captain, maybe you should start robbing corporate if you want the millions.

Chapey... our ZOI clearly says Tau, Omicron and Kusari sectors.

Why we can change it because, we still use generic ID known as Pirate ID. ZOI of Pirate ID is everywhere, what determines it's ZOI depends on individual/group's RP.

are you sure about that?

Zone of Influence:

The Raiders often perform their Raids through Bretonia and the Tau Worlds, getting into frequent skirmishes with the local factions, both lawful and unlawful. The Raiders are sometimes in Liberty and the surrounding Independent Worlds, but only in cases when transporting the goods they deem important, often wreaking havoc on the local supply lines in the process. In even rarer cases, the Raiders can be seen in the Omicron worlds, where they feel closer to their Gods. The Raiders generally avoid Kusari, Rheinland and Gallia, for unknown reasons.

where exactly is your limit. Avoiding isnt the same as not operating, and for a new faction a smaller ZOI is generally better

I think you should look at your allies (nomads, outcasts) and where you base yourself from to dictate your ZOI (think logistics, where can you portray your power

http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/0/09/...egions.jpg

As we are still using Pirate ID and, we are not official yet, we are still considering what ZOI would be best for us. Note that we do have on our mind how much it can be expanded, and will keep it moderate as any faction's ID is.

Note that it was like this, when we created it:
Our ID is not an ultimate PVP license, however in such situations Samura has no other choice than to run for life.

Also what does matter is:
As for:
I've no idea what you just said, for we've never gone outside the zone dictated by our RP guidelines. And they will stay like this.

Now:


Also no idea what purpose this served. We're raiders, we roleplay raiders and it'll stay like this. There's nothing to change.

Instead of posting what you shouldnt in this thread, please post some good feedback. As feedback, it's meant to be: What interactions you had in past with this group, what RP you had with this group and how do you see this group, your personal opinion about it.

Edit: Things got more clear.

[2:34:36 PM] Zevulen Ebert: that guy got away from me so I was mad
[2:34:45 PM] Zevulen Ebert: once
[2:35:19 PM] Zevulen Ebert: he avoided me so i decided next time il make him pay more
[2:35:52 PM] Zevulen Ebert: he knew i was in the system so he used an alternate route. so i decided to trap him
[2:36:52 PM] Zevulen Ebert: the 2nd time we met i made him pay. he saw i was in the new tokyo system but he didnt know where. so i trapped him from hokaiddo
[2:37:03 PM] Zevulen Ebert: i mean i asked for 5 mil

actually if you take a look at the other faction creation threads people judge both the interactions but also the info in the creation threads.

judging from this thread a lot of people bring up the ZOI / Base of operations and it still hasn't been adressed, the info you claimed a few posts ago is contradicted by the info in the main post. You should probably change that info.

As for that last bit I have no idea what he is talking about. This encounter was the first interaction I had with the SR. I did however a week or two ago run from a K'hara Nomad cruiser and after the fact I was told the SR was working with that Cruiser (I didn't actually see any SR with that cruiser but I was told that they worked with the Cruiser) if that is the issue then that is not my problem, I think its very sensible for any person to run from a (nomad) ship that is alien in nature.

if its anything else then I do not know. And aside from using the Sigma 13 > NB jump hole I dont tend to avoid lanes (and I only use the NB jump hole so I dont get blasted to bits by the GMG Station and ships in S-13)

edit: If you cant handle the restrictions of a new ID then you should not become an official faction, because you just might get negative side effects from having an ID

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