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Any lawful's left in Disco?

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Any lawful's left in Disco?
Offline BaconSoda
12-02-2009, 10:09 PM,
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' Wrote:I quote again what I had already written since it does seem there had been some misunderstandings...

Sorry... the point is exactely that there are not escorts cause there is not a profitable market for them, hence to balance things we should figure out a way to make escorts more profitable. Sorry for the repetition but apparently my point was not clear enough... or your reading was not very... very...

More profitable to be an escort? The only real way is to make pirating more expensive. If a pirate asks for two million (which is still the commonplace) and there is a chance to pay them, why would you ever pay an escort two million when there is a guarantee you'll pay them? If all of us pirates ask for more, escorts should ask for some bit under that. If 5k transports get taxed 5 million, ask for three million for them, and bring it down accordingly. Not only that, but the encounters aren't mutually exclusive. If one pays an escort, and then the escort fails and the pirate still makes him pay, the fee is doubled. That is utter tripe. If pirates cost more, escorting becomes more valuable. That's just it.

There is also the fact that most Freelancers and Mercenaries have no clue how to escort and don't do well to the name of escorts...

If pirates were all rougher and not so soft, people would want more people to pay for escorts. That's just it. Pirates are softer than escorts to both the wallet and psyche of the trader. Why would a trader pay what is essentially a pirate when pirates might be even nicer or not exist?

' Wrote:Again... Apparently my english is not clear enough... above I "bolded" the relevant part of my example... my point was that in the majority of the cases not only pirates does not pay any attention to RP... they do not even pay attention to fair play... a thing even worse.

Let me ask, if a trader says "I have a phone call" everytime I see him, does he really have a phone call, or is he tugging my belt? As someone who is very good at pirating and very good at getting away from pirates, I believe that there are two things fundamental to the survival of a trader:

1. Shields Up
2. Pirate thinking you're passive

If a pirate is dumb enough to sit there and wait until a trader gets back from "The Toilet", which, sadly, isn't often real, shucks to him. Power to pirates who strip shields while waiting for payment. It's the smart thing to do. If you want to blame someone, blame all the people who use OoRP to gain an RP advantage (of which there are many).

' Wrote:Now, I made an escort a few days ago. I'll copy and paste my, heh, in-depth findings from another thread in a moment. For now, I'll say that escorting is being portrayed as the way to make money at the moment, simply because apparently everyone wants them. This is a case of people being incapable of putting their money where their mouth is.

Next to no-one is interested in escorts - why yesterday, there was three of us escorts mooching around New York, frequently advertising ourselves while the system was absolutely full of high level traders. There was a fair few pirates too. That entire day I got two jobs. One was a short haul to Colorado and back, the other a long trip to New Tokyo. Total profit? 5.5 million.
To an extent, the man is correct. The traders don't want to part with their money - especially the ore miners and haulers it would seem. This is not always the case though. I made a habit of listening to people talking, then seeking out the more capable sounding players through PMs. I got quite a few more jobs that way.

As a matter of a fact, I made the majority of my money with two customers doing a back and forth trip from New Tokyo. That day I made 26 million. Swings and roundabouts, I guess. No-where near as good as tradeing, but it'll keep you in repairs and ammo.

This is because the forum population that actually does want escorts is only a fraction of the server. More people need to start setting examples of what escorts can do and start hiring them. More people need to ask for escorts in system. If the non-forum population sees that people want escorts, they'll think one of two things:

1. Wow, this escort thing is cool. I should get into that
2. Hey, maybe these escorts do something against those pirates I'm hearing so much about

Both of which can only be beneficial for the server and RP. Of course, they might ignore it completely, but, those are the people who want nothing to do with RP at all and just want a big gun.

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
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