' Wrote:Well also Mal, the one thing that was never brought up into discussion was. I was never going to attack the SF for two reasons. 1( I had no and will get no infernos or battlerazors as it is my attempt to mimic NPC KNF.
To be honest, Tank, I don't remember much of the encounter. I think we both decided after tempers had flared, that it was best to cease the conversation. Had I been aware of the above facts, I think my own questions about what was going on would have been less heated. I think you prove my point here about communications. Hopefully, we can both get better at it when playing the same "side".
Quote:2( I was not in the mood to fight in a large engagement and don't to fight my own private crusade.
I do remember a comment about not being in the mood for my crapola or somesuch, heh; so, there were other circumstances. I may have been on a downhill slope myself that day. Well, we may be able to satisfy with some smaller engagements/crusades now. At the time, we were attempting to rebuild the KNF after the rather abrupt loss of its leaders and a large number of the original members. Thus, we weren't really inclined nor able to enter any large battles ourselves.
Quote:However the whole point of this is...there should always be the individual's right to RP no matter what. Factions/clans are secondary because Freelancer is Freelancer not Freeclanlancer.
This is indeed true. The individual has the right to look Factions over, to study the forums and the Factions' statust and rules before deciding to join. But, once that person has joined a particular Faction, there is the obligation to its other members to support that Faction by following its "rules of the RP road."
Quote:the individual RPing as a Lane Hacker has a right to enter Vespucci but not a right to preen around with an HF tag while not being a part of the clan. See? I can RP with my KND aslong as I do not say I represent [KNF]. Because frankly I don't.
This is where it gets sticky, and I believe the reason that the topic was created: to explore just what responsiblilities the "non-Faction" yet "NPC Faction-aligned" player has to play within the boundaries set either by existing Faction policies, or by the "mechanical" limits set the NPC faction's behaviors. I seem to get the imression that you would rather not be bothered by the former, yet you defend and support the latter. Further discussion/clarification would be helpful.
Quote:Now I oppose that there is no war between [KNF] [SF] because it's about bloody time that two lawful factions duked it out instead of me the lone pirate and all the other pirates attacking them..
Never said we weren't at war, mate. I reviewed my own post carefully on this one. Again, you couldn't be expected to know that there were negotiations allowing KNF some "breathing room" while we rebuilt. However, you could have asked why, or what or current stance was, etc. You could also have come helped fend off the wily Prospector, or helped protect traders along that bloody Honshu milk run; which kept our folk busy most days. Again, better communications could have made it more fun for all.
Yes, it's Freelancer. And if you follow pretty well the ID, general history, and mores of the NPC faction you've decided to emulate, you're not likely to get flamed, ganged up on in-game, or sent to the corner three times without money, weps or (ahem) ship.. However, as you stated, being a Clan/Faction leader yourself, it is necessary to have some control over the direction your Faction is going, which can even include "retiring" someone who just doesn't get it, as we had to with Wobbly/Wasabi. That too, is part of Freelancer. The individual makes to choice to "enlist". Your KND character did not "enlist" with "KNF,Inc" per se; but has enlisted with "Vanilla KNF". That is why we are having this discussion. Where does one end, and the other begin, and how should and do they interact. The excercise may bring consensus, so that misunderstandings can be avoided in future. That was my original reason for posting, and still is.