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Offline Mao
03-23-2010, 11:55 PM,
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' Wrote:What you fail to mention here is that CR have repeatedly got flames because
-they are "imports" similar to BSG
-people say they dont belong here in that place doing what they do
-they get rules lawyered and yelled at ooc pretty much everytime they stop a slave/cardi smuggler

The cause of this mainly is because they were the only ones interdicting the extremely lucrative and easy cardi/slave run which was used for powertrading. Many time it was said that they as a faction should be moved or changed or outlawed, giving the pretext that this invite only faction was composed solely of terrible lolwutters.

I would say that one difference is that nobody ever asked the LN or Order to be moved from where they are or banned or that they should change their RP core.

Now... consider this and imagine what would happen if now you had CR indies who just want to get back at the OC for what ever... and would fly as many caps as they could and were not obliged to follow CR faction orders.
Would the OCs be more happy? Would the CR be better off? Who would benefit? The only diffence between a CR indi and factionalized CR is that the indy wont have to obey orders, and that he received no or less CR RP/military/pvp training. Would that be a benefit to him?
You're doing here what most of the ones that flame the CR do. You're generalizing. The problem is not the faction. The problems are generated by some points like some of the members that are in key commanding positions. I must say that CR was the first faction for me and I still like the RP behind it BUT I'm not in CR anymore due to the behavior of some of their members. So an indy CR would fit best for players like me, that don't like to be lead by some persons.

' Wrote:Solely from the RP point of view...
They are a small militaristic democracy with mixed ethnic background that differs from those of the 4/5 sleeper ships. It doesnt really leave much room for people to form subfactions or fly around in non affilitated privateering ships, or pronounce themselves fllet admiral of his own 1 man subfaction. Lets say I like the Kiretsu RP. Im just going to put Kiretsu in my name and invite some of my budies and RP everything differntly and always hang out where Dab and the other Kiretsu there. How do oyu think they would like that? Would kinda mess up his RP no? The CR RP was made by players like the Kiretsu, not like the RP of IMG of GC which was made by microsoft.
First, there's no such thing as militaristic democracy. This is the point that your leaders fail to understand. CR is pure militaristic. If you want to be CR, you MUST be in the military fleet. Indy CRs could RP civilians too. Your comparison with the Kiretsu is not the best example. You can RP using their story. All you need is a GC ID and that's about it... Indies were never in the position to influence the storyline.

' Wrote:You are twisting something here...
The SCRA, Phantoms, and Nomads have those rights and can go everywhere they want because they actually have to, but because they are privileged to do so. You could give SCRA and Phantoms a limited zone of influence, and restricted engagement rights like everybody else. Its the easiest thing in the world. They would get flamed less. (well SCRA dont get flamed anyway because their RP makes more sense).
And Keepers.... give them the ZOI of where nomad npcs are. Make their ships weaker. The Order would have something to do, there would be no more whining by keepers that they are outnumbered, and there would be no more whining that the order has nothing to do or too weak ships. Nothing stops you from doing that... except.... that some people want to be a privileged bunch, want overpwered ships, and want to go everywhere and feel special. The CR do non of that.
Nomads are a core part of Freelancer, like the Order and the vanilla factions. If you are going to complain about people being selfish and constraining.... talk to the nomads first.
THATS what I said. And you twisting what I said to make it sound like I said everyone should get overpowered nomad ships and go everyone.. now THATS just silly of you.

' Wrote:Appart from making an existing problem worse....
Look at the order, look at Minor... same thing... this shouldn't be something to deny others the right to RP a colonial... citizen.

' Wrote:Maybe they bought the car for themselves, and not for the daughter? Ever thought of that?
Kinda like SCRA? Or phantoms... (well they kinda kidnapped the ship models instead of creaing any). Or Keepers... but they kinda didnt invent the nomads either.
I see no similarities between those IDs and the CR one. They should remain restricted especially because they can do whatever they wish. CR has lots of restrictions and it shouldn't be compared to those IDs.

' Wrote:See my answer to 3. SCRA Keepers and Phantoms can do that not because their RP requires it, but because they are the uebermen here. If you wanna call someone selfish go to talk to them.
As for your and my comparison of CR to Navy, Order, Keepers....

CR: is the easiest invite only faction to get into. The only conditions are that you dont act like a total retard, can RP right (or are willing to do so), and that you follow military structure. Once you are in you receive an enourmous amount of training and advice, wether you are new or old.

Navy: Doesnt teach or offer anyone squat, as far as I know. Correct me if Im msitaken.

Order: Doesnt teach anyone squat, except inside their invite faction. Is elitist in recruitment for Order|, leaving the Order indies a squabling mess.

Keepers: Elitist, gives themselves ueberpowered stuff, keeps its own numbers low, goes everywhere and kills everyone, but survives by complaining that people dare to attack them and not lose while doing it. Then they wonder why they get flamed a lot.

Now... which of those 4 need to change?

I'd say the last 3 should pick up some of the CR methods.

CR: It is easy to get in but not everybody wants to be IN, under the command of someone. Advices you can get from other factions/players. This shouldn't concern you. CR =/= Angels.

Idea > Make 2 IDs: Colonial Guard ID and Colonial ID

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Colonial Remnant ID - by Bobthemanofsteel - 03-21-2010, 08:44 AM
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