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Capital Ship Realism
Offline EisenSeele
03-24-2010, 04:34 AM,
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' Wrote:You will find that the breakdown of vessels on the server has roughly 5-10% of them as caps, which makes perfect sense. For every 1 cap there's 10 fighters/bombers, though far more in actuality, percentages here are a bit skewed due to the player limit. Capital ships ARE rare, you just notice them far more than other ships. If you go by the numbers of ALL characters, not just the ones on the server at any time, then that percentage changes greatly. The ratio of capital ships in relation to fighters etc drops a lot.
So essentially here's the actual facts for you, based on statistics gathered.

- There are more fighters/bombers that could be considered 'lol's than there are 'lolcaps'.
- These often cause far more damage and stress to people than any kind of capital ship
- Making capital ships hard to buy will only hurt the 99% of capital users that aren't idiots.
- Making capital ships stronger in return will only encourage 'lolcaps' as you call them. The power of a capital ship is the drive for most people to get one. Increasing that is a bad plan.
- This community is biased against Capital ships in general as it is the 'Cool thing' to insult. The word 'lolcaps' just proves that.
So, lets increase the price of fighters and bombers till no one can buy them. After all they cause even more problems than any kind of capital ship.

Oh wait, that would harm me, the oh so fantastic player that is infinitely superior to all the 'lolcaps' out there. Why should I be punished for a tiny minority being idiots?
I shouldn't.
Please, just stop while your behind.

The point isnt about the numerical percentage of how many cap ships there are, the point is about how many people have them - how easy it is to get them - and how easy it is to abuse them. I could care less about how many more fighters/bombers that could be considered more 'lol' than lolcaps. That is irrelevant to this discussion. Sure, it makes no sense that a couple of bombers can level a cap ship with relative ease. Hell I've taken out a liberty cruiser by myself, and no one was impressed.
The bottom line is... Capital ships are broken. Not broken as in uber, but broken as in ridiculously weaker than they should be.

Since you have only addressed the part about Cap ships getting a buff, and not the part about making it less available to... what shall I call them if not lolcaps because you seem to have taken a particular disliking to the word... roflcap-tors? fine. I digress. You either haven't read the suggestions in its entirety (something that is to be expected since the kneejerk no brigade seems to have showed up) or you wish to disregard the portions that invalidate one of your points.

Regardless, far more than your projected 1% of cap ship users are lolca- i mean roflcap-tors. Sure, one can say that a significant portion of capital ship users are responsible and good rp-ers, but it only takes one to ruin a good thing. Hell there's way more than one - just check the sanction board. It's way too common for some trader that doesn't even speak english to grind trade routes into oblivion, scrape up enough money to get... say... a liberty assault carrier - and wreck havoc. Usually this involves something like "PIRat U die Nao!" or something like that, but you get the picture. Keep in mind that this is an RP server... and cap ships are supposed to be oodles of RP served with a side of RP, drenched in a coating of RP sauce and garnished with a small clove of RP (since well... it's not for combat, as the nerfs have kindly reminded us, nor is it for trading, as their cargo space is clearly not suited for it, nor for is it for exploration, as they're slow and unwieldy - so what's left is that they're there to look at, fulfill a role in rp, and perhaps, if Freud was right, serve as a way for us to get back at our fathers for some reason or another - or to compensate for certain shortcomings, but that is a conversation best saved for the flood :/)

Perhaps you're going to ignore that wall of text - hell, it looks like a pain to read even for me- so I'll boil it down for you in points:

-Cap ships are ridiculously underpowered for combat - this was to discourage those that would not use it for RP.

-Perhaps it's a worthwhile venture to figure out a system that won't make them so hilariously underpowered?

-This thread is looking for a method of cap ship balance that is unlike the current method to nerf them into hilarious uselessness.

-It's an RP server and cap ships are meant for RP, perhaps we should add in features that expand on the gameplay surrounding capship rp?

-Maybe making capships harder to get and harder to maintain will ensure that those that actually do get cap ships are all good rp-ers?

-Adding in mechanics that make cap ships dependent on other ships in a tangible game depth expanding way (they already are dependent on other ships for escort since they're doomed against anything smaller than a gunboat) will force people to cooperate with one another rather than merely making it stupid to not cooperate with others (since people are more inclined to do stupid things than illegal things, though both tend to hold much in common).

Well that's about it. If you've got any suggestions on how to expand upon this, do share - if all you're going to spout is the tired argument of "lol no, it's not broken and ur only bashing cap ships cause it's the cool thing to do" then you're welcome to do so - though it's preferable if you did it elsewhere.

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Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 12:18 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Bobthemanofsteel - 03-23-2010, 12:23 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Alex. - 03-23-2010, 12:34 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 12:34 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Aaronny - 03-23-2010, 12:35 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Sprolf - 03-23-2010, 12:36 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 12:39 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Sprolf - 03-23-2010, 12:41 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 12:46 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by ... kur nubėgo? - 03-23-2010, 12:52 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-23-2010, 01:14 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by ... kur nubėgo? - 03-23-2010, 01:18 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 01:37 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Blaze - 03-23-2010, 01:45 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 01:46 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 01:49 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Blaze - 03-23-2010, 01:52 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 01:55 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Linkus - 03-23-2010, 01:59 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Blaze - 03-23-2010, 02:02 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Waratah - 03-23-2010, 02:49 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Eppy - 03-23-2010, 03:06 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Sprolf - 03-23-2010, 03:10 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Eppy - 03-23-2010, 03:30 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Sprolf - 03-23-2010, 03:30 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 03:40 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Sprolf - 03-23-2010, 03:42 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-23-2010, 03:50 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Sprolf - 03-23-2010, 03:51 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by MarvinCZ - 03-23-2010, 04:00 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 04:26 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-23-2010, 05:28 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 06:36 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Tenacity - 03-23-2010, 07:53 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-23-2010, 08:29 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by ... kur nubėgo? - 03-23-2010, 08:44 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-23-2010, 09:27 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-23-2010, 09:36 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Linkus - 03-23-2010, 01:03 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 04:34 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 04:39 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Linkus - 03-24-2010, 04:45 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-24-2010, 04:58 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 07:01 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Hawkwings - 03-24-2010, 07:26 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Sprolf - 03-24-2010, 07:29 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by stardust47 - 03-24-2010, 07:50 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 07:51 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 07:56 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Hawkwings - 03-24-2010, 08:37 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 08:43 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Hawkwings - 03-24-2010, 08:58 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 09:01 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-24-2010, 09:04 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Hawkwings - 03-24-2010, 09:05 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-24-2010, 09:13 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Chase - 03-24-2010, 09:18 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 09:33 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-24-2010, 09:41 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 09:50 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 10:04 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-24-2010, 10:18 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 10:31 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Curios - 03-24-2010, 10:50 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by EisenSeele - 03-24-2010, 10:59 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-24-2010, 11:07 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Lunaphase - 03-24-2010, 06:57 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by Hawkwings - 03-24-2010, 09:44 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 03-25-2010, 12:20 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Jarek_70 - 04-05-2010, 12:00 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by Jinx - 04-05-2010, 12:44 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by tansytansey - 04-05-2010, 01:06 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 04-05-2010, 01:17 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by Jinx - 04-05-2010, 01:25 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by Mr.Fabulous - 04-05-2010, 01:33 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by tansytansey - 04-05-2010, 02:11 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 04-05-2010, 02:19 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by Linkus - 04-05-2010, 05:25 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by Blaze - 04-05-2010, 05:34 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by Aaronny - 04-05-2010, 05:50 PM
Capital Ship Realism - by DarthBindo - 04-06-2010, 02:40 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by atlantis2112 - 04-06-2010, 03:19 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by DarthBindo - 04-06-2010, 03:23 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by n00bl3t - 04-06-2010, 06:22 AM
Capital Ship Realism - by Bear - 04-06-2010, 06:31 AM

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