DHC feedback

[Sturmwind]

Well 1st not need to thank how we kept up a hessian with speech, until he typed he didnt fight. Next time use out and dont lose this little advantage for typing. You're welcome.

Typing. RP. You might have noticed, I actually typed more than you did, in response to what Hoerst said, even though I was fighting.

Is it relevant? Nope, because:

We just watched the fight, for that reason how in the past half year you, the RM never let us fight with you when we offered our help. Only one time we got permission. So of course we wont join anymore. Or you invited or asked our help? No. We sent a Bounty Hunter for help and he killed an enemy so we sent aid for you, better if you thank it, and next time if you need help, ask.

The outcome of the fight was TOTALLY irrelevant. It's NOT the point that you didn't assist us, because I don't care how the fight ended. The problem is NOT that you sat there and didn't assist: The problem is that you were supporting the Hessians VERBALLY while making obviously sarcastic comments at our forces. You even called the Hessians' revolution "mighty". Seriously... they are your worst enemy, not us.

We was there for investigating the rumor about 101st and RM cooperation. Seems like it was true.

That was a twisted RP from Blodo's side. If you would take your time into reading things, getting your facts right:

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...c=63746&hl=

No, you don't have access to that thread in-RP, but the RM DENIED to deal with the 101st and keeps treating it as hostiles. Why did we attack the RHA regardless?

Three reasons:

1) They were outnumbering the 101st. Attacking the outcasts thus, would have been ganking. I'm not really into that stuff, personally. Also, I was hitting two flies at the same time with hitting the Hessians, who were busy with the 101st already losing. But why didn't I keep out with my men? Point 2:

2) A Flieger of ours was already under attack. I never gave him orders to move in, but leaving him to die in the hands of our enemies was not the right punishment, since other measures would have followed afterwards. But wait... why did I go in afterall if he was acting against my orders? Point 3:

3) Some Hessian (I could clearly see the natters) attacked me sitting there, draining my shields almost entirely. Given the above two points, I saw the time was opportune to strike.

So again: We did NOT support the Hessians. Yet, you acknowledged the Hessian leader's statement calling them "our masters". My entry to the fight was merely a tactical one, since if the Hessians would have gone down, the Outcasts would have been the next.

Our 2nd reason was the investigation of Krugers. We got a lot of info about that how Kruger miners (indies and future official members too) are under hessianss protection in Omega 7. Until we fight all day with hessians, our competitors who are true rheinlanders just made a business contract with the enemy. So who is the traitor? Of course we have evidence. But we understand them and maybe we will follow them. Today the discuss was the 1st step for it.

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. Also, there's no Kruger official faction to deal with in the first place. I am not aware of such issues and I don't see how that's relevant to this case.

You clearly declared you never guard our mining fields, where we really need the protection.

Who did?
Where?
When?
Why?

That's something you made up there, buddy.

And if we are here, at this point, lets talk about the protection. Hessians there every day, RM? Max once a week. We awaited real help and we held back the patrols, let you the guard role. until we didnt kept the law, we got a lot of unwanted element but zero back-up from RM. The final point how we must change our politic was an RM member who dont have any idea how IMG cant land on Daumann bases. What did you promished last time? You will protect our bases from all illegal IMG dock? How when your member dont have idea about it. Of course we have evidence for it too.

Again, how is that relevant to this case?

Regardless, I NEVER said you can't patrol or protect your own space, I even specifically told you you can. If you see some Hessians pirating and there's no RM available, why don't you help your guys out?

PLEASE use your common sense.

About the IMG case, that's a server rule violation, not our fault.

In my readings (well actually a lot of think the same but I talk only in my name) RM totally lost the point with the reinland civilians. Did you do something for us? I dont really see. Did you save us anytime? Never. You did the fights for yourself. When we need a hand and RM are on-line a lot of time they just ignore us or refuse the help. Those military pilots who give real help, threatened with sanctions by you, so they dont really help anymore. Yes the WD guys. Maybe their RP not so excellent like yours but at least we can count them.

You keep demanding that we do nothing but sit in Omega-7 all the time, just like the WD does.

Why don't we do that?

-We can't have a member online 24/7 for your disposal, nor can we predict when the pirates are attacking.
-We have the whole of Rheinland plus the war front to cover. We are the RHEINLAND military afterall. Not the OMEGA-7 military. We can't sit in your mining fields all the time waiting for something red to pop up.
-This is a game. What if you loose an ore shipment because our men were occupied elsewhere?

And what was the insult? When a vice admiral died I just noted:
[01.04.2010 17:00:34] DHC-Patrol.Beta-1: Oops our military wont be happy if they lost their command officers
[01.04.2010 17:00:46] [RHA]Gunther_Hoerst: Heheh... Daumann has a sense of humour I see!
[01.04.2010 17:01:03] [RHA]Gunther_Hoerst: Well, let me inform you that you won't need to pay that hunter...
[01.04.2010 17:01:04] [RM]Va.Alec.Voelkel: They do more verbal damage to us than they do to you, I agree with that.
[01.04.2010 17:01:21] CONSOLE: ?Possible cheating detected: Daniel_2010
[01.04.2010 17:01:26] [RM]Va.Alec.Voelkel: Whose side are you on, corporates?
sorry if I just post from the log I dont cared with screenshots. Where is the insult?

There's this for one:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm144/z...omolyanmiez.gif

However, later on as I was being shot at rather heavily, you openly started discussing a hypothetical scenario of the revolution being victorious and the DHC's place in such a world. Should you really be doing that with your worst enemies?

I dont know maybe better if you not handle the problems in Omega systems as a minor or local problems. The wars mostly material war too and if you dont care the resources, RM lose the war Im sure. Your reactions about our requests show us, you dont care. So slowly we wont care to you. We are corporation and as I see I must explain what does that mean.

As again, we can't sit in O-7 all the time. And the only source of Rheinland's minerals is not just Omega-7. There's Dresden also being a major one, where I somehow never see anyone around. Maybe because the fields are not mineable? Just because some Red Hessians occasionally trash up O-7, that doesn't mean we will loose the war.

A corporation never corrupt just make business decisions (private sphere cant be corrupt just government side). The corporations cant be traitor because they loyal only themselves. We dont care the government and politic just for business and profit. If somewhere a corporation dont get what it want, then the corporation walk away and search a better place for the HQ and factories. The responsibility and loyality only for shareholders. Not to Military not to Kanzler or Government. And for the shareholders we must show up higher and higher profit. This is the only what really important. How we do this - thats our business. We can do it with legal business decisions, but if it not work (and not work because you, RM) the illegal business decisions coming. There are more: deal with hessians and revolutioners, deal with corsairs or making steps for new place and deal with BAF and Bretonia example. What is our goal what we wanna reach? Simply: we wanna be the dominant and if it possible the only one mining corporation in Omega systems. Its I think an understandable and good RP goal. All our act against IMG, Kruger, BMM and foreigner miners, the mining area guard serve this goal. Do you help in this? No. You block us - thinking about your reaction for IMG capital fleet and all our report later about IMG. You give us just a promishe, you protect our bases from IMG docking in the core systems. This was the maximum help. Well as I wrote before your member dont heared about it. Thank you for the help. Another goal expand our influence, bringing new business partners who are already have good relation with Liberty. Yes, council. A lot of new possibility. Do you help? No. Again a block what we got. So why you are surprised on our negative reaction?

It maybe not your fault but the game mechanizm, but somehow impossible to make the policy and capitalizm or money concentration or interlacement. You are too arrogant because you have all, so dont really need civilians. That is a problem. I can continue the line but doesnt really matter. When we see you try to work on a better relationship, maybe we change too. At this moment we are close for a 2nd revolution, and the Daumann mining bases in Omega systems will rebell. It maybe bring some changes. At least hessians are trustworthy - eh was hard to type it but this is the true. 2nd possibility a new RM who really care with the civilians. It help you too, you get some new allies. We are ready for it. Check this half-ready website we made steps for it too. We tried cooperating with you but we never got what we wanted. Im sure you realized we not a common trader faction we really try to play as a real dirty corporation, so forget the victim role if you think about DHC- we are or at least wanna be on the winner side like corporation in RL. One way or another but we reach our goals, no matter the cost. Better if we do it with you, but I personally dont mind if I must rebell and need to shoot down you.

I think I'm better off with not responding to that part because...

1) It is irrelevant to this discussion.
2) My response would include some degree of trolling, due to the amount of irrelaism this holds.

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The point:

You're a Rheinland corporation, loyal to the Kanzleramt. Act as one.