Capital Ship Realism

[Jinx]

after reading the whole thread so far... i do wonder

what is it you all actually WANT? - everyone ( well, almost ) has made statements and justifications - skimming around the actual point.

people try to explain how they want capital warships only to rest in responsible hands. ( responsible = funny thing, responsibility usually rests upon their own point of view of responsibility )

furthermore, people try to paint things black and white. there are "lolcaps" and there are "good ones" - which side of those has a greater impact on the balance of the server varies greatly from argument to argument.


now the point is - you only get what you ask for in a single player world, where every encounter is scripted and balanced towards the current playerlevel and skill.




what is inRP and what is out of RP? - what is fair and what is unfair? - why does it matter?



a pirate wolfhound exits a jumphole - totally unaware of the situation he is thrown into. it just happens that on this side, a cruiser hangs out - NOT cause he wants to shoot down unfortunate little pirates... but cause he is roleplaying a patrol to his best skills.

they are enemies to one another. - should the cruiser open fire? - should he have a chitchat with the pirate? - should he ignore the fighter? should he inform allied fighterpilots to deal with it?

who is to say whats good and bad, whats responsible for a capital ship player and what not.



inRP might be to silently open fire with all available batteries. the cruiser doesn t use up ammo and energy replenishes ( so no resources are lost ) - chatting to the pirate is irrelevant - whats there to say anyway? letting the pirate go? - why, when he is so readily presenting himself on a silver platter... .

fair? no, - but very bad luck on the pirates side.... - thats life in a multiverse.

against the rules? - yes. ... but aside from the rules. - the fighterpilot would call the cruiserplayer a "lolcap" - cause he died to him, cause he is unaware of what RP the cruiser has applied before he was in the system - and cause its kind of "expected of a light fighter pilot that just died to a cruiser".

objectivity means - trying to look onto such an encounter from both sides - and from a neutral position. - and suddenly it might turn out....

- the encounter was nither ooRP, nor anyones fault at all.. just a series of bad luck.



prejudice however is:

- swap the capital ship for a patriot. - suddenly we have a patriot on a patrol vs. a wolfhound. you ll hardly get a fairer encounter when it comes to lawful vs. unlawful in liberty. - the patriot opens fire on the pirate - they fight, the patriot wins.

no one will call the patriot a "pvp-whore" or "lol-figther" - in RP however, the encounter was exactly the same, the player was as responsible as the cruiser player.


the question is:

do we punish the player for his bahaviour? or his ship....

both act according to their roles they ought to play ( roleplaying game ) - one encounter is fairer - the other is unfairer. ( but whats that gotto do with roleplay? ) ... in the cruiser encounter. many a community members will state that the cruiser player made a mistake by attacking the pirate, the pirate however being innocent - yet unlucky.

but if we seek "responsible" players only to be allowed to fly capital ships. - we just found them in both encounters. - both knew their roles, both acted according to their roles.

i would consider a cruiser player a bad RPer if he tried to find excuse after excuse not to fight a fighter that comes into weaponsrange and clearly shows as hostile.
only if warships used ammunition ( = every shot costing money ) - not engaging might be inRP. - but as long as they use unlimited resources of energy to power their weapons - i see no reason not to open fire.



so the question is still... "what do you want capital ships and players to be like?" clearly stated - no justification ... just how do you wish them to be like. - but be aware that you might get what you want and you might still not like it.

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