' Wrote:Since someone finally bothered to let me know about this, I will comment.
I personally removed the location of Fort Leniex from the Wiki.
I did not do this to set a precedent. Please reread the discussion: it was concluded that the sector, but not the exact location, would be shown.
I don't see why Fort Leniex in particular is such an issue.
For instance, the Unknown Object in Chester; it is a Nomad base, and it has the sector - the sector, not where exactly it is in relation to the plane - on it.
New York and Alaska; absolutely no mention of how to get past the mine field.
Corsica Outer Sanctum's Wiki page doesn't mention its exact location in comparison to the plane, either, and it's far more public than Leniex (albeit visible on scanners)
Same goes for the Alien Jump Gate in Kansas; it says its below the plane, yes, but it doesn't say exactly where below the plane.
Terre Haute's Wiki page doesn't say exactly where it is, either, does it?
I could even get ridiculous and say "Does the Missouri's say where it is compared to the plane?". After all, it is 50m below the plane.
Why on earth should Leniex's exact location be specified, then?
Are you panicking because the Hellfire Legion account was the one to bring that into constancy with every single other base, secret or otherwise, that's anywhere on the Wiki? Would you rather I have created a totally separate account to do exactly the same thing?
I fail to see why this is a problem when it was the conclusion of both a discussion by other editors and consistent with all other similar articles. The only falsification that went on is the removal of the distance and direction off the plane that it was.
So go nitpick elsewhere and stop Q_Q'ing because your article edit was undone to match the pre-discussed conclusion and to maintain consistency.
It has nothing to do with stopping people from getting equipment, either. If you're really too lazy to find it yourself, you can even (gasp!) ask someone. If you're a Hacker, most other Hackers/VR members/HF members'll be decent enough to let you know, out of character, where the place is. If you're on the official server, we might even show you.
That said, this'll all be a moot point when .86 rolls around, so I honestly don't care if you add it back. I removed it for the sake of consistency; if the Administration doesn't want it removed, I could honestly care less.
Game, people. Game. Not worth starting flame threads over, especially for something this ridiculously trivial.
... And oh my goodness people are posting fast.
cshake: Again, could care less. It's easy to do; just keep it consistent. The distance off the plane was sitting right there next to the coordinates in the infobox. There's not one other article where that's been done.
EisenSeele: Oh yes. It's a faction conspiracy. Keep it up. I hear the wholesalers are making a fortune off of tin hats these days.
Seriously, I'm not sure what else to say to that. Might've made me laugh if it wasn't a little bit pathetic.
Soong: Good points, in general. And less of an essay than mine, too.
Everyone: Simmer down, people. Game.
Amazing... just absolutely amazing. So you propose that since there are problems with other base locations not noting planar location, we should leave the Fort Leniex location issue unfixed? Your appeal to the "meh, the other stuff are wrong so we might as well leave this problem unfixed too" logic aside, would it be better if I personally addressed those locations as well? Consistency be damned if there's a problem you fix it or let it be fixed - and the little fixes will accumulate until everything has been consistently fixed. Since your rationale was spawned from a "don't wanna bother to do this cause it'd be too much work" attitude, I'd suggest you leave it so that the willing can fix as much as they can. More relevant information never hurts - and as a wiki, relevant information flows in, not out.
Oh and... about Corsica Outer Sanctum, check the bottom of the page, in the tab marked spoilers.
