thank you both for your input, i will use it the best i can. Maybe the TDF will stay out of the kusari Bretonia war but get involved with the new faction somehow, it is a good idea to start small, but if you had a boundless surplus of credits and a heap of miners to protect you would want to go all out to maintain a cash flow, im not really intending to use a battleship in tau-23 but maybe in some of the other systems it may be a circuital advantage we could hold over the enemy.