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Offline CommanderX
06-27-2010, 07:36 PM,
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Ok, I will name all the problems and tell what are the solution, you can agree with tham, or dissagree, I give tham based on my own experience.
I m Navy Gunboat Capitan, 5 guns, 1 missile, 1 battle razor.

First of all, the weak points of all capital ships, and strong points off all fighters and bombers,
1. Speed, fighters and bombers have 80 - 200 speed, capitals have 80 - 150 speed, battleships 90 speed.
2- agility, only gunboats have some agility what force bombers to come closer to shot SANC, with is good because, they should be anti-fighter, anti-bomber.

Bombers and fighters can easy escape from capital ships, capital ships need alot of luck to escape from fighters and bombers.
The good think is that 1 bomber or 1 fighter not can hurt capital ship, but 6 fighters/bombers can destroy 6 capital ships one by one by aiming 1 target.

So, the bigest weakpoint of capital ships is that no matter what escort and number they have, they are easy target if many fighters/bombers will gang up on 1 capital ship, even gunboat with his agility not suvive long if 4 bombers or fighters jump on him.
But this is other story, we are talking about bombers and escort.

The problem is that with bomber nanos, shields, agility, speed, and SANC 1.5 range is that nothink can stop tham from shoting down cruizer, battleship from save distance.

The just dodge fighters, gunboats attack, for moment aim target, shot SANC, and after this they dodge and recover shield again, solaris range is to low to give capital ship protection.

As everyone know, there are many bombers, some are harder and have more shields and nanos, some have less hull, nanos, shields, but bomber with less hull and nanos, have alot highter agility, and bombers with highter agility are just imposible to shot down in time.

I for example, used to fight again bombers 2 vs 1 in my gunboat, it is hard, but not impossible as long as bombers are not agile, but if they are agile, I m down.
The only think what save me was to move foward dodging, and use back look and shot to bombers on my tail, but not work on small agile bombers.
If 3 VHF jump on me, I m down.



So, problem is that:
Bombers can team up on 1 cap to finish him fast,
Bombers SANC give tham high save range and alow to aim for moment and rest of time spend on dodging,
Capital ships not can cooperate again fighters and bombers, they solaris not have enogh range.
Fighters and gunboats not can shot down bombers in time and they not can stop him from shoting SANC.


My idea for solution are:

Increse Solaris guns range by 50% with just 10% energy use increse, or somethink like that.

Make Bombers bigger by 20% to make tham easter target,

Very importand, cut down Bombers agility to lower level, bombers are fast enogh to avoid capital ships fire,
but they agility help tham suviver fighters and gunboats fire,

Inrese speed of fighter guns, not range, not power, just speed.


Well, I hope my ideas will not make everyone think I want to make bomber phatetic, they are just the only way to give escort ( fighters/gunboats ) chance to destroy bombers before they get capital ship down, they will not reduce bomber efective again cruizer and battleships, they will just reduce they change to suviver gunboats and fighters escort.

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bomber balance - by X-Lancer - 10-05-2009, 04:32 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-05-2009, 04:36 AM
bomber balance - by kindred - 10-05-2009, 04:39 AM
bomber balance - by Durandal - 10-05-2009, 04:40 AM
bomber balance - by Boss - 10-05-2009, 04:40 AM
bomber balance - by kindred - 10-05-2009, 04:41 AM
bomber balance - by Boss - 10-05-2009, 04:43 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-05-2009, 04:43 AM
bomber balance - by casero - 10-05-2009, 04:44 AM
bomber balance - by Boss - 10-05-2009, 04:46 AM
bomber balance - by Patrician - 10-05-2009, 04:46 AM
bomber balance - by Dieter Schprokets - 10-05-2009, 04:47 AM
bomber balance - by Friday - 10-05-2009, 05:15 AM
bomber balance - by Lunaphase - 10-05-2009, 05:25 AM
bomber balance - by Zero755 - 10-05-2009, 05:31 AM
bomber balance - by Lunaphase - 10-05-2009, 05:42 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 06:21 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-05-2009, 06:31 AM
bomber balance - by Friday - 10-05-2009, 06:37 AM
bomber balance - by Pingu! - 10-05-2009, 06:55 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-05-2009, 06:56 AM
bomber balance - by Birdtalon - 10-05-2009, 07:02 AM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-05-2009, 07:34 AM
bomber balance - by Birdtalon - 10-05-2009, 07:37 AM
bomber balance - by Tenacity - 10-05-2009, 07:39 AM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-05-2009, 07:49 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-05-2009, 07:57 AM
bomber balance - by Durandal - 10-05-2009, 11:32 AM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 12:04 PM
bomber balance - by Dra1003 - 10-05-2009, 12:05 PM
bomber balance - by Zero755 - 10-05-2009, 01:02 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 01:22 PM
bomber balance - by Durandal - 10-05-2009, 01:25 PM
bomber balance - by Tommeh - 10-05-2009, 01:27 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 01:34 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-05-2009, 01:35 PM
bomber balance - by Tommeh - 10-05-2009, 01:45 PM
bomber balance - by Zero755 - 10-05-2009, 01:49 PM
bomber balance - by Jordi - 10-05-2009, 02:05 PM
bomber balance - by Aduka - 10-05-2009, 02:16 PM
bomber balance - by Hawk - 10-05-2009, 02:18 PM
bomber balance - by ProwlerPC - 10-05-2009, 02:21 PM
bomber balance - by Dashiell - 10-05-2009, 02:28 PM
bomber balance - by Jinx - 10-05-2009, 02:36 PM
bomber balance - by Aduka - 10-05-2009, 02:37 PM
bomber balance - by Tovig - 10-05-2009, 02:37 PM
bomber balance - by Har3 - 10-05-2009, 02:39 PM
bomber balance - by ProwlerPC - 10-05-2009, 02:39 PM
bomber balance - by Pingu! - 10-05-2009, 02:42 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 02:42 PM
bomber balance - by Jonathan_Archer_nx01 - 10-05-2009, 02:48 PM
bomber balance - by pruskis92 - 10-05-2009, 02:52 PM
bomber balance - by ... kur nubėgo? - 10-05-2009, 03:02 PM
bomber balance - by Radic - 10-05-2009, 03:06 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 04:04 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-05-2009, 04:29 PM
bomber balance - by ProwlerPC - 10-05-2009, 04:42 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 05:10 PM
bomber balance - by ... kur nubėgo? - 10-05-2009, 05:11 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-05-2009, 05:17 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-05-2009, 07:18 PM
bomber balance - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 10-05-2009, 07:58 PM
bomber balance - by Rudo - 10-05-2009, 08:02 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-05-2009, 08:25 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-06-2009, 07:08 AM
bomber balance - by Jonathan_Archer_nx01 - 10-06-2009, 07:20 AM
bomber balance - by Varyag - 10-06-2009, 07:57 PM
bomber balance - by NonSequitor - 10-06-2009, 08:22 PM
bomber balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-06-2009, 08:27 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-06-2009, 08:29 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-06-2009, 08:30 PM
bomber balance - by Grimly - 10-06-2009, 08:30 PM
bomber balance - by Varyag - 10-06-2009, 11:31 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-06-2009, 11:43 PM
bomber balance - by Benjamin - 10-06-2009, 11:46 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-06-2009, 11:52 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-07-2009, 09:53 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-07-2009, 11:19 AM
bomber balance - by Implosion - 10-08-2009, 04:57 PM
bomber balance - by Navycross28 - 10-08-2009, 05:29 PM
bomber balance - by Loop - 10-08-2009, 05:29 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-08-2009, 05:34 PM
bomber balance - by Loop - 10-08-2009, 05:41 PM
bomber balance - by Implosion - 10-08-2009, 05:43 PM
bomber balance - by alpha3 - 10-08-2009, 05:48 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-09-2009, 02:07 AM
bomber balance - by alpha3 - 10-09-2009, 01:25 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 01:39 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-09-2009, 01:47 PM
bomber balance - by notequinoxe - 10-09-2009, 01:50 PM
bomber balance - by frozen - 10-09-2009, 01:52 PM
bomber balance - by Denelo - 10-09-2009, 01:54 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 01:55 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-09-2009, 01:55 PM
bomber balance - by frozen - 10-09-2009, 01:57 PM
bomber balance - by arvg - 10-09-2009, 02:03 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 02:06 PM
bomber balance - by Weedalot - 10-09-2009, 02:07 PM
bomber balance - by Colonel.Tigh - 10-09-2009, 02:17 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 02:17 PM
bomber balance - by notequinoxe - 10-09-2009, 02:24 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 02:30 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 02:40 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 02:50 PM
bomber balance - by Othman - 10-09-2009, 02:51 PM
bomber balance - by Jihadjoe - 10-09-2009, 03:00 PM
bomber balance - by Implosion - 10-09-2009, 06:03 PM
bomber balance - by alpha3 - 10-09-2009, 06:23 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-09-2009, 06:31 PM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-09-2009, 11:23 PM
bomber balance - by schlurbi - 10-09-2009, 11:32 PM
bomber balance - by frozen - 10-10-2009, 01:43 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-10-2009, 02:02 AM
bomber balance - by Canadianguy - 10-10-2009, 02:13 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-10-2009, 02:20 AM
bomber balance - by tansytansey - 10-10-2009, 02:41 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-10-2009, 02:43 AM
bomber balance - by GHOSTbielars - 10-10-2009, 06:40 PM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-10-2009, 06:42 PM
bomber balance - by Blodo - 10-10-2009, 07:43 PM
bomber balance - by Athenian - 10-10-2009, 07:55 PM
bomber balance - by Blackvertigo1 - 10-10-2009, 08:04 PM
bomber balance - by DAnvilFan - 10-10-2009, 08:04 PM
bomber balance - by GHOSTbielars - 10-10-2009, 11:48 PM
bomber balance - by Tovig - 10-11-2009, 12:35 AM
bomber balance - by reavengitair - 10-11-2009, 01:47 AM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 01:50 AM
bomber balance - by Corsair - 10-11-2009, 02:06 AM
bomber balance - by Friday - 10-11-2009, 02:07 AM
bomber balance - by Guest - 10-11-2009, 06:12 AM
bomber balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-11-2009, 06:56 AM
bomber balance - by n00bl3t - 10-11-2009, 07:05 AM
bomber balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-11-2009, 07:07 AM
bomber balance - by n00bl3t - 10-11-2009, 07:14 AM
bomber balance - by GHOSTbielars - 10-11-2009, 09:36 PM
bomber balance - by Corsair - 10-11-2009, 09:41 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 09:44 PM
bomber balance - by schlurbi - 10-11-2009, 09:51 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 09:57 PM
bomber balance - by GHOSTbielars - 10-11-2009, 10:44 PM
bomber balance - by mjolnir - 10-11-2009, 10:46 PM
bomber balance - by Corsair - 10-11-2009, 10:51 PM
bomber balance - by Elsdragon - 10-11-2009, 11:05 PM
bomber balance - by looqas - 10-13-2009, 10:03 AM
bomber balance - by CommanderX - 06-27-2010, 07:36 PM

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