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Offline Jinx
07-17-2010, 06:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-17-2010, 06:23 PM by Jinx.)
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while i wholeheartedly support ... umm.. the support you give there agmen ( rare thing that there is support for the capital ships - well not soo rare anymore but still )

i do wonder if there isn t an alternative way to increasing the duration of a battle. ( armour / hitpoints )

the fact that warships are irrelevant in fleet battles and go down first ( still ) is well known. - the fact that they are hopelessly underpowered for what they "stand for" is also well known ( although some like it that way - others don t )




alternatives to simply increasing the duration of the battle might be:

- multiple shield bubbles of weaker but faster regenerating shields ... resulting in the need for single vector attack angles, instead of firing from wherever you stand at a capship. - drain one shield ... and you should better stick to that side - or you end up draining the other shields while the first one regenerates

- add a HELL lot of armour to capital ships - but give them specific vulnerable spots ( if that could just be coded.... *sigh* ) - resulting in either trying to shoot down - e.g. 50.000.000 hitpoints ( *yawn* ) or actually skilling up to AIM at smaller spots and subtargets.

that would FORCE a bomber to either get dangerously close ( battleship point defenses kicking in ) - or stay at its safe distance of around 2.5-3k and snipe for an eternity - however if you bring lots of friends sniping with you - even 50 million hitpoints are but a push-over.

- make explosives work vs. capital ships ( properly ) - and get rid of the supernova - and balance the nova and maybe an ammoless shieldbuster for bombers - that way - a bomber needs to have its shots actually hit. ( make them slow, but give them an almost perfect tracking - the capship cannot shoot them down ( no CD ) but might spin them away ( flak ) or have its escorts shoot them down )




the problem i have with increasing the armor or in general increasing the time is: its good when there are escorts no doubt - but might turn rather dull when waiting for the inevitable just takes longer now.


on that note - funny thing really.... the supernova wasn t changed when we increased the capital ships hitpoints by around 2.5 times - yet it hasn t changed much about the capships vs. bomber problem.

bombers are a necessity - but destroying a capship should require more skill than hitting a huge lump of metal in space - if it required hitting special subtargets - things would change dramaticly - and highly skilled bombers would still be able to take out a capship.

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Logical balance - by Lunaphase - 07-17-2010, 06:24 AM
Logical balance - by Bear - 07-17-2010, 06:27 AM
Logical balance - by Crusader4 - 07-17-2010, 06:41 AM
Logical balance - by Huhuh - 07-17-2010, 06:47 AM
Logical balance - by Lunaphase - 07-17-2010, 06:55 AM
Logical balance - by Lobster - 07-17-2010, 07:32 AM
Logical balance - by Jinx - 07-17-2010, 07:54 AM
Logical balance - by Huhuh - 07-17-2010, 08:02 AM
Logical balance - by Lobster - 07-17-2010, 08:04 AM
Logical balance - by Huhuh - 07-17-2010, 08:05 AM
Logical balance - by Lobster - 07-17-2010, 08:10 AM
Logical balance - by Tenacity - 07-17-2010, 08:15 AM
Logical balance - by Soul Reaper - 07-17-2010, 08:37 AM
Logical balance - by mjolnir - 07-17-2010, 09:33 AM
Logical balance - by Jinx - 07-17-2010, 09:37 AM
Logical balance - by Malenka - 07-17-2010, 09:50 AM
Logical balance - by Lobster - 07-17-2010, 09:57 AM
Logical balance - by Soul Reaper - 07-17-2010, 10:07 AM
Logical balance - by mjolnir - 07-17-2010, 10:27 AM
Logical balance - by Jinx - 07-17-2010, 12:29 PM
Logical balance - by Osilon - 07-17-2010, 01:13 PM
Logical balance - by Disparagess - 07-17-2010, 01:17 PM
Logical balance - by Govedo13 - 07-17-2010, 01:17 PM
Logical balance - by Disparagess - 07-17-2010, 01:28 PM
Logical balance - by Jinx - 07-17-2010, 01:30 PM
Logical balance - by Kubotan - 07-17-2010, 01:35 PM
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Logical balance - by Cond0r - 07-17-2010, 02:54 PM
Logical balance - by Jinx - 07-17-2010, 03:17 PM
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Logical balance - by Cond0r - 07-17-2010, 09:57 PM
Logical balance - by Akura - 07-17-2010, 10:00 PM
Logical balance - by Govedo13 - 07-17-2010, 10:03 PM
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Logical balance - by Lobster - 07-17-2010, 10:47 PM
Logical balance - by Lobster - 07-17-2010, 11:03 PM
Logical balance - by Malcolm_Reynalds - 07-18-2010, 12:10 AM
Logical balance - by keithobad - 07-18-2010, 12:16 AM
Logical balance - by mjolnir - 07-18-2010, 12:45 AM
Logical balance - by Osilon - 07-18-2010, 12:46 AM
Logical balance - by mjolnir - 07-18-2010, 12:52 AM
Logical balance - by Lobster - 07-18-2010, 12:53 AM
Logical balance - by Huhuh - 07-18-2010, 02:13 AM
Logical balance - by Vogel - 07-18-2010, 04:31 AM
Logical balance - by Lunaphase - 07-18-2010, 05:39 AM
Logical balance - by Akura - 07-18-2010, 05:41 AM
Logical balance - by Friday - 07-18-2010, 06:56 AM
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Logical balance - by Huhuh - 07-18-2010, 07:38 AM
Logical balance - by Akura - 07-18-2010, 08:00 AM
Logical balance - by Huhuh - 07-18-2010, 08:52 AM
Logical balance - by Jinx - 07-18-2010, 09:38 AM
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Logical balance - by Sturmwind - 07-18-2010, 01:57 PM
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Logical balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 07-18-2010, 09:48 PM
Logical balance - by Blighter - 07-19-2010, 12:01 AM
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Logical balance - by Soban - 07-19-2010, 07:49 PM
Logical balance - by Lance_Uppercut - 07-19-2010, 07:59 PM
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Logical balance - by Lucas_Fernandez - 07-19-2010, 08:24 PM
Logical balance - by mjolnir - 07-19-2010, 09:22 PM
Logical balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 07-19-2010, 09:41 PM
Logical balance - by CzeReptile - 07-19-2010, 10:01 PM
Logical balance - by mjolnir - 07-19-2010, 10:21 PM
Logical balance - by CzeReptile - 07-19-2010, 10:26 PM
Logical balance - by Huhuh - 07-20-2010, 06:15 AM
Logical balance - by kuth - 07-20-2010, 02:40 PM
Logical balance - by Lance_Uppercut - 07-20-2010, 04:36 PM
Logical balance - by Jinx - 07-20-2010, 05:19 PM
Logical balance - by Lance_Uppercut - 07-20-2010, 09:11 PM
Logical balance - by Lance_Uppercut - 07-20-2010, 09:13 PM
Logical balance - by CzeReptile - 07-20-2010, 09:29 PM

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