zoners - my suggestion

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thier bases and thier factions and thier warships, [...] with becoming one of the most powerful factions in Siruis.

The first part is wrong as you should know well. You know that we've discussed to put the Jinkusu and the Aquillion to a Special RP Request Procedure, just because the official factions realized that there were far too many of these ships in-game. The myth of the Zoners based on some kind of secret power, which nobody wanted to challenge, perhaps bacuse of their Juggernauts. But played accordingly actually no Juggernaut should show up in-game, perhaps in an event. We only objected the complete removal of these ships because there'd be no need to do so, if they are SRP. The general permission for official factions to decide over cap ship use would have been extremely useful to enforce and encourage a proper Zoner RP.

The second part is potentially right, but not due to their military force, but due to their "neutrality". Still, "being powerful" and "using power" are not the same thing. Played properly they would not have to use their power to summon forces, but stimply shift their interests, which is enough of a threat. Being confronted by Corsair attacks without actually having switched interestests their reactions to summon forces in order to repel the acute dangers should be logical enough. The current situation in Theta is only a tiny piece in the history of Zoners, and it COULD be played according to SOME lore (i have written the wiki entries, because vanilla is not descriptive enough), but after a while Sirius MIGHT return to its previous state, and of course welcome Zoners back as they should be. Defensive and neutral.

At some point the Zoners need to find some middle ground for themselves. Are you a powerful faction who threatens to bring out the Juggys everytime someone does something you dont like, or are you going to play the neutral minded diplomats?

One major flaw by ALL pariticipants I've seen was the denial of Zoner RP acceptance. The reason why Freeports were able to sustain without large forces (which where meant to be hidden somewhere anyway), was their cruicial role in diplomacy. No single faction ever asked a Zoner faction to negotiate on their behalf, which would actually be the best display of Zoner diplomacy, right? The dimplomacy as it has been so far was always related to defensive reactions on accusations, questioning, issue-raising, a.s.o, be other affiliations. Now, you cannot RP more than you have time in a day. Diplomacy needs much more time than hunting pixels.

Thats for the Zoner playerbase to decide. But dont expect everyone else to just go along.

Same might apply anywhere, any time, which is not a solution, just an observation.

Yes the Corsairs told you what to do with your bases.... in thier territory.

Why hasn't any Corsair faction intervened when the ZA published the Zoner Laws, making clear that 5k around each morring point is considered to be Zoner Space (GC differs perhaps because of its size).

Zoners bases are always in someone elses territory, Zoners have to deal with this fact and not expect people to just be neutral with you because you are the Zoners. This is not vanilla anymore, every other faction in the game has had to adapt, now its time for the Zoners to as well.

It's rather a good way to remove Zoners as a player faction completely from the game. Game mechanics don't allow anything else thantrading and fighting, while everbody would gladly renounce from trading if the own player groupd cannot protect their transports.

You know what happens to passive people in real life? They tend to get run over by others, much the same as what is happening here.

I'm glad you're approving it.

How the Zoners handle it from there side is up to them, but the Corsairs have a right to be freinds with, or not whomever they wish, because just like the Zoners should have control over how they feel about other factions, like the SCRA, so should the Corsairs, they should not be forced to be freinds with people they as a faction dont want to be freinds with.

The current situation in Theta comes with everything you'll deserve for your needs *g