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[Request] New Scylla Model

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[Request] New Scylla Model
Offline Barbarossa
02-18-2012, 11:18 PM,
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' Wrote:Well I does not put any difference between Destroyer and Cruiser in the name- we got plenty of examples where both are mixed, the only realy destroyer in the Mod is the kusari one.
Scylla have heavy cruiser core 12 guns with crap arcs made for tanking- but what it could tank
Not a battleship for sure, then the 4 main opponents:
Bret Crusier/ GRN Cruisers- better arcs more hull more bots
Bret Dessie and Lib cruiser- both are much faster then it, especially the bret dessie- it is the best ship of its class since Kudessie got nerfed acrs. It have heavy core and good attacking gun arcs while it turns like thresher and can face you all the time.
Liberty cruiser- it can dance circles around scylla and remove it without problem.
It is on par with Corsair cruiser in terms of Hull/bots/turining/core but it does not have so good arcs like the corsair one.

I find adding crap arcs on ship as rather poor excuse really-because in reality you does not need 12 guns if you can shoot only with 8, the rest are only for show or to rotate mindlessly like RM gb turret with 350° arc for example- one word-useless.
You are pretty much wrong- it has light cruiser turning, light cruiser size, heavy cruiser powercore and heavy cruiser hull/bots with heavy slots front firering, it have nothing common with medium cruisers really. I find its stats justified since in 4.85 it needed to fight the best cruiser in game and now it is attacked by Gallia, however the bret dessie have nothing that you can compare it - it is unique crossover with only one downside- it does not have good backfire guns but it turns so fast that it does not need it and not like that Scylla have any good backfire guns.
Bret Dessie have superior harder to hit form and turns faster- it could use its frontal power to bring a lot of damage then turn faster then you and bring even more dmg on the side, scylla is not good at heavy hitting anything or defending vs snubs.

I does not ask that the ship must be on par with house military- I agree to have it worse then it I ask for having 1 less heavy slot in order not to have devs telling me" but it has 4 heavy slots"- it has 3 obviously since it does not possess one 360°- so making slot 12 light you would enable Scylla to defend itself better from snubs since it has tragic backfire arcs, other good thing would be that you does not to mount 2 Light mortars in order to have normal Light motar range. This is the fastest fix that would bring the ship a bit of snub defense power and would safe one wasted slot.

However if you think it should be desse then re-size it with 20 %-30%, add small cruiser core to it slap 9 guns with 2 heavy front 1 heavy 360° and 6 light front/sides 4 backwards.
I have nothing against it, I personally would even love it- Rheinland Pirate cruiser like/SCRA cruiser like- small swift and deadly. Because now it is not agile- it have heavy cruiser core and a medium hull/bots with crappy arcs- it is nothing like agile or with smaller core/gun numbers. I am also not sure if its rather long model is suitable for destroyer size.

Now Scylla is crossover between Vidar and RPC- having effective guns range of RPC with Vidar handling, Vidar core but bad arcs, less hull less bots, so make your mind- if you want it heavy make it tank cruiser- Vidar like having a lot of backfire/front fire guns and proper arcs with more hull and more bots.

The closest that I could compare Scylla now is the Corsair cruiser- it have better arcs and the rest is the same. I also find the corsair cruiser also underpowered in terms of bots/bats and hull compared on his size and supposed role.

In general I find having slightly better turning then the most heaviest cruisers not a good excuse to have crap arcs or crap hull since they matter more definitely. The best possible combination for cruiser is the bret one- heavy core heavy Armour a lot of bots, small amount of guns- it is not relevant anyway an the best- Tresher like turing- it can steam roll small/medium/heavy cruisers like boss because it has little to no downsides. I would say to give it medum cruiser core if you want to be medium cruiser or medium cruiser hull and bots or medium cruiser turning. Give it something medium at least.

Now I need to test corsair cruiser/Vidar and RPC in order to see if there are any major changes then in 4.85. I tested Bret dessie in 4.86- it got 1 gun more, tested ku dessie- it is not OP anymore, tested the SCRA cruiser- it is really nice one. Sadly Disco of Disco is offline.
Not to go off-topic but.... Storta is even worse.... Less agile than Scylla, Less armor, 3 useless Heavy slots. [Image: Untitled-1.jpg]

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Messages In This Thread
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Charos - 02-17-2012, 09:32 PM
RE: [Request] New Scylla Model - by MrWeeks - 11-26-2013, 12:36 PM
RE: [Request] New Scylla Model - by Echo 7-7 - 11-27-2013, 12:21 AM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Swallow - 02-17-2012, 09:43 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Charos - 02-17-2012, 09:48 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Corsair - 02-17-2012, 11:29 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Govedo13 - 02-17-2012, 11:33 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by AeternusDoleo - 02-18-2012, 12:27 AM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Hone - 02-18-2012, 12:35 AM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Luis - 02-18-2012, 03:02 AM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Zukeenee - 02-18-2012, 04:14 AM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Charos - 02-18-2012, 08:43 AM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Altejago - 02-18-2012, 09:16 AM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by AeternusDoleo - 02-18-2012, 01:19 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Altejago - 02-18-2012, 01:32 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Echo 7-7 - 02-18-2012, 02:41 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Govedo13 - 02-18-2012, 08:24 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Doom - 02-18-2012, 10:48 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Barbarossa - 02-18-2012, 11:18 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Luis - 02-18-2012, 11:49 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Govedo13 - 02-19-2012, 12:09 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Prysin - 02-19-2012, 12:32 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Govedo13 - 02-19-2012, 12:38 PM
[Request] New Scylla Model - by Durandal - 02-23-2012, 10:21 AM

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