' Wrote:Thanks for the feedback on my feedback!
I completely understand. That was my point, to know your limits so that you don't inadvertently back yourself into a corner.
Again, this is role play. If we always avoided such things said role play would be extremely stale and boring. This is role play, there are no limits other than what you and the person you are role playing with agree to.
' Wrote:No need to to go on the defensive and create a strawman. I didn't mention capital ships or the like. I am of the opinion that Freeports should be open to all as they always have been, and as I believe they always should be. Feel free to disagree.
I didn't go on the defensive, nor did I strawman. I clearly stated fact. Facts you disregarded in order to sling poo at a faction who is more popular than your now dead faction.
' Wrote:I stand by my previous comment: "Going via the admins (FR5,sanction report etc) simply isn't feasable except in very extreme cases, and just creates a negative atmosphere. Public shaming, angry letters and the like on the forum comm channels are just as detrimental. It just leads to bad feelings and bad blood between everyone."
If people can't understand that this is a role play server and our actions are merely in role play, that is their issue. If they aren't mature enough to understand that we used Faction Right 5 on their characters because it was the proper course of action, that is their issue. Again, role play server. This isn't real life.
' Wrote:No, not hypocrisy. Wisdom through experience. Mistakes were made. I'd rather not see others make the same mistakes. Don't use those mistakes as justification to make more yourselves.
I can with confidence say I've more experience than you, and probably 99% of the ex members of the Omicroners when it comes to running a Zoner faction. We don't need your wisdom, the leadership of OSI has been around on this server for longer than most of the members of the Omicroners. We watched as your faction made mistake after mistake. We offered advice multiple times. We don't need your wisdom to learn from your mistakes, we learned from them as your faction made them.
' Wrote:You mistook my joke at the end for my point. Dagnabbit, I should have used more smilies. :P My point was this: "There is no such thing as a "Zoner way"". Zoners are extremely diverse in their views and opinions. It follows that any governmental body or treaty is likely to have such a proportion of Zoners who oppose it, as to make it worthless.
Still, you're a really nice and friendly bunch of people and I'm sure I'll continue to have really great encounters with you folks. See you around.
Again, your preaching to the choir. I've long been one of the most vocal members of the Zoner community when it comes to pointing out there is no single Zoner way. The leadership of the Omicroners were the ones that couldn't accept that fact.
As for a govermental body or treay being worthless because there are others who oppose it? Nonsense. Any Zoner government, council, etc etc is worth while for those who partake in it. I'd wager those who oppose it also find it worth while because they can use its actions to further their own agenda.
You'll have to forgive my demeanor, after years of insults, negative comments, and generally being talked down to by the leadership and membership of your ex faction; it is rather tiresome to have any of you come here and preach to us about how to play a Zoner faction. Especially when you think you need to inform us how not to repeat your mistakes, when; you know we watched you make them and tried to help only to be insulted repeatedly for trying to help.
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