FallenKnight Wrote:@Tinitus, you still havent answered the question as well as any other who request the nomads to be open. Your points are more of a joke than reasons.
I have answered your questions of why I and some people don't want to join in the current recruitment process, what we want, and why we want it.
Sadly, you have, again, like so many other nomad leaders and "leet" faction leaders before you, chosen to block out what you don't like hear, and try to tell yourself and others that oh no... that is not what he wants... he just wants to be a terrible person and be mean to all the good people like me and my faction.
I'll try to explain, again.
I don't want you, or the other of the official nomads I have met, to be judge over what I can and cant do. Not because I want to lol around, not because I want to gank, but because I don't want people telling me which of their player enemies I can attack and which of their player friends I cant.
I want to be able to RP and play a nomad without having to please certain individuals with how I do it.
The reasons I don't accept to place myself under the judgement of these individuals are:
1: I don't think its good to give individuals the power to give more playing rights to certain players and not others. This will never be a fair system. You can have factions with limited recruitment, but dont give the faction players more rights than indies, or people will go inside the faction just for the sake of getting advantages and power.
2: After what I have seen from the players inside the nomads, the judgements of who is "worthy" to join and who isnt has been deeply flawed. They dont RP better, the dont RP more, they dont fight fairer, they don't behave better towards players. In fact, they seem to think that their status of official nomads (leet leet) gives them the right to behave poorly towards others, and complain when ever others dont behave like they want them to. I have given a load of examples why I come to this opinion, in my previous post.
FallenKnight Wrote:All in your "walls" was your bad experience with the nomads when you had a human char.
You obviously didn't read carefully. One of the examples I gave is me on a morph. Yes, I have read the lore, I have built and RPed a morph, I have flown with other morphs, I have flown with keepers and wilde. The lore is over rated, the RP possibilities are limited in one way but interesting in another. But the main reason I am not going to ask "may I please become one of you" is because after many interactions with you, I dont really want to be come one of you.
FallenKnight Wrote:You gona shield run or annoy real player just because you think the player is OP? Then you deserve nothing better than to be left aside ignored or ganked.
Again, either you didnt read correctly, or you are willfully trying to make it look like I said something which I didnt say. It was not me who did the shield running. It was the official nomad, and he called me "useless person" after he had given up on winning and just chose to dodge nonstop and I was only able to drain his hull very slowly, and he was only able to escape alive because a nomad bomber passed him bots.
Ironically, you have just said that this nomad player now deserves to be ignored and ganked because of his behavior.
Maybe this will finally get you thinking?
And to make it clear...
I don't care about his shieldrunning. He can shieldrun all he wants. What I thought worthy to mention is that he pmed me "// you cant kill me you useless person" while he was shieldrunning (and had already given up on winning).
FallenKnight Wrote:Complaining about nomads and their balanced RP of blood thirst hostility OR your best friend to chat with for ~30-40min aka nomad RP have no place in such thread. Go post at the khara's feedback.
I answered your question of why I dont want to join you. To let you understand why I dont, I gave examples.
FallenKnight Wrote:I will quote few of your "blahblah" stuff:
Nomads ships maneuverable? lol...you have no idea how wrong you are
Nomads ships OP NOW? LOL no...there is a reason why some of the nomad ships are left aside as dust keepers
Nomads ships unkillable? Are you...serious?
-Labraid: order LF is better as well as any other LF or HF right now.
-Sascya and Adad: the only 2 balanced ships right now but still sascya is not the best VHF.
-Nammu: worst gb in disco. We will try to do something about it in future.
-Irra and Marduk: good ships but still : no missles, no flaks (not that they have exactly "flak gun" but something like that) they are fine but none of us fly them cuz once a marduk is out there, the order sends 3-4 osirises to lolgank ...just no need.
One time you people say that ships cant be unrestricted because thare are overpowered and people would abuse them, another time you say that they arent overpowered when you are using them.
You should really make up your mind.
At the time of the incident I was talking about, the Labraid was the most agile fighters in the game, with on top of that a better shield than most other LFs. Anyone who ever flew or fought one knew it was overpowered, and impossible to kill if the person flying it knew what he was doing.
And the main reason I mentioned the incident was not because the labraid was or is OP, but the reason why I mentioned this incident is because of the hypcrisy of the people flying it, coming into the system, attacking ships who had no chance, and coming near the Battleship, perfectly knowing that it will shoot them, just so they could complain that a Battleship was shooting them, although they perfectly knew that even the Battleship couldnt have killed them if they just dont let it.
FallenKnight Wrote:-You have problem with the terrorist ID? You think nomads must WAVE at you instead of sometimes engaging without 1 hour RP? And...do you expect every nomad player to ask in OOC way "Hey are you skillful dude? Cuz I am about to attack you? If you are not good I wont "
Its not the fact that they ganked that I criticize, its the fact that they constantly complain that people gank them on the forum and in game, and sometimes they even complain when people DEFEND against one of their ganks.
FallenKnight Wrote:I wont bump your other quotes but you didnt stated anything real,
All of the incidents I mentioned were real.
FallenKnight Wrote:no real reason why you WANT that except the fact you want to be nomad indie.
I want to be an indy because I dont want to be considered a part of the nomads who acted the way they did in the examples I gave.
You ask me a question. I answer you. You tell me "no thats not the REAL answer".
People have been giving you the same answer for pages and pages.
You just refuse to accept the answer to the question. The problem is with you, not with me or the others.
FallenKnight Wrote:If you attitude towards the nomad community is that bad, we must be very greatfull there are no indies to do lolz around and ruin the name of the faction.
The attitude of the current nomad community to the player community is worse than I mine towards the nomad community.
Indies don't ruin the name of a faction, faction members do.
And they already have.
Indies will not be worse. They will probably even be better, because they don't see themselves as "special enough to be allowed to do more than others"
People who want the nomads to remain a "special club" keep turning in circles, saying that nomad gear is too overpowerd to be given to indies, but then its not overpowered when the "special club" uses.
They say "oh they just want to go everywhere and pew pew everyone with OP ships".
No, they dont want that. The people in the nomads who want nomads to remain closed want that, for themselves. The people who want them open want a limited ZOI and reballanced gear, if necessary, for everyone.