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Agmen of Eladesor

12-11-2010, 05:50 AM,

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' Wrote:As to the reasoning that he should restrict caps from going to the Omegas to prevent the ID from losing that right.. As Daedric said, what's the point of having it on the ID if you don't allow them to go there anyway? Also, this is an OORP reason, and thus not covered by FR2, which only allows for it to happen within RP reason. Furthermore, that's a decision made by the admins, not by your. Sorry Agmen, but this isn't your choice to make.

As to your RP reason concerning the need for ships, I've seen no lore saying that the BHG Core needs every last ship they have available. In fact, I see lore that you're winning the war. As far as I can tell, this reasoning was pulled out of nowhere.

Dab, if you'll recall, I was on the admin team at the time that the change in ID came about. I know maybe just a smidge about what was said behind the scenes by the guys with the tin foil hats, because we had some very beautiful <strike>arguments </strike>discussions about changing the ID in the first place.

The 'lore', as you put it, is in our standing orders. Which was made IN RP by us, and with our own reasoning behind it. We are a military organization - we issue orders, we don't HAVE to issue explanations. Or are you now saying that the faction leadership - which in this case is myself AND the other 8 Guildmasters, aren't allowed to say what OUR faction is going to do, and that every person that happens to buy a cap ship can do whatever they want that's not forbidden by the ID, such that Faction Rights are meaningless?

Until now, we've not had any issues with people not following that order.

As soon as you say, THOU SHALT NOT GO INTO THAT SYSTEM and put it into the ID, you're immediately restricting the possibility of future RP. It's entirely possible that at some point in the future we might NEED to bring a big cap fleet into Omega 3. And if so, it'll be justified by forum role play in advance. Pretty darned tough to do that when the ID says, YOU ENTER AND YOU GET SANCTIONED.

The sheer fact that two days ago I received a forum PM stating:

Quote:And i will make you nerf the id before i take my mako out of omega 7.

tells me that this person isn't interested in what's best for everyone else on the server, only what's best for him.

(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

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Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-09-2010, 02:59 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-09-2010, 03:55 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-09-2010, 04:14 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Jinx - 12-09-2010, 04:16 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by hribek - 12-09-2010, 04:22 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Schatten Research Facility - 12-09-2010, 04:24 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-09-2010, 04:58 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-09-2010, 05:11 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by mjolnir - 12-09-2010, 05:21 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-09-2010, 05:24 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-09-2010, 07:10 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 01:33 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Dab - 12-10-2010, 01:42 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 01:56 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 02:19 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 02:32 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-10-2010, 02:37 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 02:40 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 02:41 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-10-2010, 02:46 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 02:48 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 02:50 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-10-2010, 02:54 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 02:55 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 03:00 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-10-2010, 03:33 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Coin - 12-10-2010, 03:49 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 03:53 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 03:54 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 04:01 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 04:09 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 04:18 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 04:21 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 04:34 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 04:41 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 04:42 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:03 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 05:04 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 05:05 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 05:13 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Mimic - 12-10-2010, 05:14 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 05:17 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:37 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 05:41 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:47 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 05:53 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by hypermauler - 12-10-2010, 05:54 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:55 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-10-2010, 05:59 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:00 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 06:03 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:06 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 06:14 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:15 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-10-2010, 06:19 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:25 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:26 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:29 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 06:30 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:33 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-10-2010, 06:34 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:36 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:38 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:39 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:41 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:44 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:46 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:50 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:55 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:57 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 06:59 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:01 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:03 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:04 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:05 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:06 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:08 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:09 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:13 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:15 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:16 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:17 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by dodike - 12-10-2010, 07:17 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:19 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:20 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:22 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 07:23 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:23 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Varyag - 12-10-2010, 07:24 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:26 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:26 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:27 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 07:28 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:28 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 07:30 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Cameron - 12-10-2010, 07:31 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:32 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:33 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by .:Mongoose:. - 12-10-2010, 07:33 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:34 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:35 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:36 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by .:Mongoose:. - 12-10-2010, 07:38 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Zelot - 12-10-2010, 07:39 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:39 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:41 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:43 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Cameron - 12-10-2010, 07:47 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 07:54 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Ceoran - 12-10-2010, 09:11 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Jinx - 12-10-2010, 09:26 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Sly - 12-10-2010, 09:51 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-10-2010, 11:27 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Dab - 12-11-2010, 01:28 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-11-2010, 05:50 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-11-2010, 05:55 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-11-2010, 05:58 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-11-2010, 06:13 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-11-2010, 06:31 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Dab - 12-11-2010, 08:02 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Govedo13 - 12-11-2010, 01:34 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-11-2010, 01:58 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-11-2010, 03:54 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Govedo13 - 12-11-2010, 05:08 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Jinx - 12-11-2010, 05:21 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-12-2010, 04:45 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-12-2010, 06:11 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-13-2010, 06:23 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-13-2010, 06:37 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by dodike - 12-13-2010, 06:44 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Zelot - 12-13-2010, 06:45 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-13-2010, 06:48 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by dodike - 12-13-2010, 06:51 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-13-2010, 03:07 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-13-2010, 08:08 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by nurnbergerbratwurst - 12-14-2010, 11:06 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 02:34 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 02:41 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 02:44 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by nurnbergerbratwurst - 12-14-2010, 02:50 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 02:56 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by nurnbergerbratwurst - 12-14-2010, 03:02 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-14-2010, 03:11 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 03:13 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Ceoran - 12-14-2010, 03:20 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:23 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:24 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:32 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by nurnbergerbratwurst - 12-14-2010, 03:37 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:38 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:41 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:44 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 03:45 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:46 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 03:49 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:50 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:52 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-14-2010, 03:52 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 03:54 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:57 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 04:02 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 04:08 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 04:23 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 04:50 PM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-16-2010, 02:14 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-16-2010, 02:31 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-16-2010, 02:35 AM

Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-16-2010, 08:28 PM

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