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Offline Jinx
12-11-2010, 05:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2010, 05:26 PM by Jinx.)
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to clear that one up:

FR5 is requested - when a specific character ( or a group of characters ) has acted in a manner towards the requesting faction or parts of the faction that justifies a hostile reputation.

in earlier days - we would TRUST a players responsibility to adjust his reputation by himself. - that means.... i do NOT consider it a punishment to be hostile to someone i don t need to be - but i consider it a RP consequence.

because players do not live up to that responsibility - FR5 were introduced.



becoming hostile is a RP thing.

a little test was made - to just provide ooc evidence to justify a change of reputation - but without ANY roleplay. - the evidence showed the presence and hostile actions against a faction - but FR5 would only be conducted when the change of reputation was actually being RPed ( comm channels etc. )

--> just so you don t think its a pure ooc tool


how can one representative be flagged hostile "just for being there"?

cause it is a RP thing.

in a war - when soldiers commit attrocities - rape, pillage, murder, torture - those soldiers are guilty and to be punished ( if they are unlucky to loose the war - or if the winning side considers them harmful for their political progress )

but - they are only the "little" people being punished. - you ll always seek the higher ups who allowed it - who might have known about it and did nothing ( or supported it ) - and thats how you get a general accused for allowing rape, murder, pillage and torture. - even if he never did it himself ... or have been even close to it.

maybe he really didn t even know exactly anything about it - but still - if it was HIS troops doing it - he is responsible.

and that is how you can flag a specific member out of a crowd.


the above is ONE example that is NOT related to ANY game events at all - which only explains how it can come that you can FR5 someone ... in RP - even if he wasn t even around.




in terms of disco / freelancer - it would involve roleplay that clearly showed that any good will by the other side was met with hostility. - that attempts were conducted to deal with the situation and make REASONABLE demands - which could be met within disco canon.

whats left is :

FR5 are 100% in roleplay - and only done, cause the players that its applied to were too lazy to adjust the rep themselves - or unaware that it was asked of them.

if the later is the case - asking a player /ooc - to please become hostile due to : X actions - can help - and only if that player REFUSES - FR5 makes sense - provided the RP enviroment 100% justifies the actions.






edit:

for example: some of my chars don t need to be hostile to certain other factions - but my character considers them hostile due to specific actions that were done in the past. - so i OF COURSE adjusted my own rep to display the faction my character considers "hostile" to also show "red".

that happens both - when i am attacked repeatedly or when i wish to attack someone. - i don t need to wait for the other faction to request a FR5 - cause i adjust my rep myself as soon as my character considers them hostile.

and when i go out and shoot someone - i do OF COURSE turn hostile to that ID - no matter what.


when my enemy happens to carry the same ID that i carry - i will have to reflect upon myself and ask myself "is HE violating freelancer faction canon? - or am i pushing it too far"

and when i am honest to myself and it turns out it is i who pushes it too far - it may even be ME who must become red to my own faction.... thats what responsibility is for you.

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Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-09-2010, 03:55 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-09-2010, 04:14 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Jinx - 12-09-2010, 04:16 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by hribek - 12-09-2010, 04:22 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Schatten Research Facility - 12-09-2010, 04:24 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-09-2010, 04:58 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-09-2010, 05:11 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by mjolnir - 12-09-2010, 05:21 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-09-2010, 05:24 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-09-2010, 07:10 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 01:33 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Dab - 12-10-2010, 01:42 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 01:56 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 02:19 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 02:32 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-10-2010, 02:37 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 02:40 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 02:41 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-10-2010, 02:46 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 02:48 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 02:50 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-10-2010, 02:54 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 02:55 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 03:00 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-10-2010, 03:33 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Coin - 12-10-2010, 03:49 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 03:53 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 03:54 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 04:01 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 04:09 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 04:18 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 04:21 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 04:34 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 04:41 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 04:42 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:03 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 05:04 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 05:05 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 05:13 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Mimic - 12-10-2010, 05:14 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 05:17 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:37 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 05:41 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:47 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 05:53 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by hypermauler - 12-10-2010, 05:54 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 05:55 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-10-2010, 05:59 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:00 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 06:03 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:06 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 06:14 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:15 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-10-2010, 06:19 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:25 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:26 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:29 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 06:30 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:33 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-10-2010, 06:34 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:36 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:38 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:39 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:41 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:44 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:46 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:50 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 06:55 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 06:57 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 06:59 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:01 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:03 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:04 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:05 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:06 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:08 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:09 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:13 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:15 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:16 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:17 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by dodike - 12-10-2010, 07:17 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:19 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:20 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:22 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 07:23 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:23 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Varyag - 12-10-2010, 07:24 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:26 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:26 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:27 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 07:28 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:28 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Taneru - 12-10-2010, 07:30 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Cameron - 12-10-2010, 07:31 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:32 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:33 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by .:Mongoose:. - 12-10-2010, 07:33 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:34 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:35 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:36 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by .:Mongoose:. - 12-10-2010, 07:38 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Zelot - 12-10-2010, 07:39 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-10-2010, 07:39 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Llama - 12-10-2010, 07:41 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by FraserTE - 12-10-2010, 07:43 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Cameron - 12-10-2010, 07:47 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by ryoken - 12-10-2010, 07:54 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Ceoran - 12-10-2010, 09:11 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Jinx - 12-10-2010, 09:26 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Sly - 12-10-2010, 09:51 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-10-2010, 11:27 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Dab - 12-11-2010, 01:28 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-11-2010, 05:50 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-11-2010, 05:55 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-11-2010, 05:58 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Camtheman - 12-11-2010, 06:13 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-11-2010, 06:31 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Dab - 12-11-2010, 08:02 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Govedo13 - 12-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-11-2010, 01:58 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-11-2010, 03:54 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Govedo13 - 12-11-2010, 05:08 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Jinx - 12-11-2010, 05:21 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-12-2010, 06:11 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-13-2010, 06:23 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-13-2010, 06:37 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by dodike - 12-13-2010, 06:44 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Zelot - 12-13-2010, 06:45 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-13-2010, 06:48 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by dodike - 12-13-2010, 06:51 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-13-2010, 03:07 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Daedric - 12-13-2010, 08:08 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by nurnbergerbratwurst - 12-14-2010, 11:06 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 02:34 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 02:41 PM
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Faction Right 2 and 5 - by nurnbergerbratwurst - 12-14-2010, 03:02 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Diabolicus - 12-14-2010, 03:11 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 03:13 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Ceoran - 12-14-2010, 03:20 PM
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Faction Right 2 and 5 - by nurnbergerbratwurst - 12-14-2010, 03:37 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:38 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:41 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:44 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 03:45 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:46 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by 'Ends' - 12-14-2010, 03:49 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:50 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-14-2010, 03:52 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by AeternusDoleo - 12-14-2010, 03:52 PM
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Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 03:57 PM
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Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Enoch - 12-14-2010, 04:50 PM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-16-2010, 02:14 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-16-2010, 02:31 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by n00bl3t - 12-16-2010, 02:35 AM
Faction Right 2 and 5 - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-16-2010, 08:28 PM

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